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Keeping or Changing Eudora
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t***@earthlink.net
2018-03-05 05:31:45 UTC
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I have loved Eudora dearly for about 20 years now, but each time I have to get a new computer, I freak out that I won't be able to use Eudora, which is my favorite software. So I have two questions:

-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.

-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?

I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)

Thanks,
Tely
Tim Streater
2018-03-05 07:33:20 UTC
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I have loved Eudora dearly for about 20 years now, but each time I have to get
a new computer, I freak out that I won't be able to use Eudora, which is my
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but
I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export
my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
You can use emailchemy (<https://weirdkid.com/emailchemy/>) to convert
Eudora mailboxes to a variety of other formats for other email clients.
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poverty, gentleness and tolerance, you need a very rich, powerful,
authoritarian organisation to do it." - Vice-Pope Eric
paterson@africaonline.co.ke
2018-03-05 11:13:49 UTC
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-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
I upgraded to Windows 10 and through various iterations of it and have not had a problem on my main computer. I did on my laptop but that was because of a hard disk failure and a complete reinstall. If you are really just upgrading rather than changing machines you should not have a problem.

Thanks.

Bob
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-03-05 15:37:11 UTC
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I upgraded to Windows 10 and through various iterations of it and have not had a problem on my main computer. I did on my laptop but that was because of a hard disk failure and a complete reinstall. If you are really just upgrading rather than changing machines you should not have a problem.
New installs on fresh OS shouldn't be a problem either -- especially if
one accepts the recommended defaults for program ("Program Files (x86)" for
64-bit OS) and data ("%AppData%\Qualcomm\Eudora").

It is only when one has been using bad habits from the W9x days that
one runs into problems... Having the user data files stored in the
installed program directory for example; or (depending upon configuration)
using custom start-up shortcuts.

The only tricky part hasn't changed from Win7: Windows changed the
registry location that stored "default email client". Run Eudora as Admin,
once, with it configured with the option to prompt if not default program.
Then turn off that option. That makes Eudora somewhat happy, even though
the location it writes to is not used by the OS (need Admin as that
location is now protected from user changes). THEN use the Win10 control
for setting default programs to ensure Eudora is set as the mail client.
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t***@earthlink.net
2018-03-08 01:34:08 UTC
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Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
I upgraded to Windows 10 and through various iterations of it and have not had a problem on my main computer. I did on my laptop but that was because of a hard disk failure and a complete reinstall. If you are really just upgrading rather than changing machines you should not have a problem.
Thanks.
Bob
Thanx, Bob. I'm actually thinking about this in terms of when I get a new laptop that would have Win 10 on it. Do you think it would be problematic there?
Will Seehorn
2018-03-05 14:20:13 UTC
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-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,

Eudora works fine under Windows 10 as long as you don't try to install data files in areas Windows protects (the default locations in Eudora work fine).

Instructions:
Run the installer. (If you no longer have the installer, you can download it here <https://www.dropbox.com/s/uv62znkcfswh6qm/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe?dl=0>.)
Using an administrative account when installing is generally a good idea. When it asks where to put the data files, do not put them in a location that Windows protects. Choosing the default locations that Eudora normally uses is fine. Choosing a location that you create yourself, outside of the Program Files directories is fine too. Close Eudora when it starts and wants to go through the setup wizard.

Copy everything from the old computer's data directory to the location you chose for the data directory on the new computer.

If you're using plugins that didn't come with Eudora, either install them again or copy their files from the plugins subdirectory of the old program directory. Most plugins can be copied but it is possible you're using one that wants to be properly installed.

If you're using an attachment directory outside of the data directory, create the desired location on the new computer and copy your existing attachment files to it. If the new location isn't exactly the same as the old one, be sure to change the setting in Eudora appropriately.

Replace the original version of qcssl.dll with a patched version. If you don't already have the patched version, you can get it here <https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbufua62y169ih3/QCSSL.dll?dl=0>
t***@earthlink.net
2018-03-08 01:45:08 UTC
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Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
Eudora works fine under Windows 10 as long as you don't try to install data files in areas Windows protects (the default locations in Eudora work fine).
Run the installer. (If you no longer have the installer, you can download it here <https://www.dropbox.com/s/uv62znkcfswh6qm/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe?dl=0>.)
Using an administrative account when installing is generally a good idea. When it asks where to put the data files, do not put them in a location that Windows protects. Choosing the default locations that Eudora normally uses is fine. Choosing a location that you create yourself, outside of the Program Files directories is fine too. Close Eudora when it starts and wants to go through the setup wizard.
Copy everything from the old computer's data directory to the location you chose for the data directory on the new computer.
If you're using plugins that didn't come with Eudora, either install them again or copy their files from the plugins subdirectory of the old program directory. Most plugins can be copied but it is possible you're using one that wants to be properly installed.
If you're using an attachment directory outside of the data directory, create the desired location on the new computer and copy your existing attachment files to it. If the new location isn't exactly the same as the old one, be sure to change the setting in Eudora appropriately.
Replace the original version of qcssl.dll with a patched version. If you don't already have the patched version, you can get it here <https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbufua62y169ih3/QCSSL.dll?dl=0>
Thanx so much, Will. When I replace the original version of qcssl.dll with a patched version, do I do that after the installation and before I run Eudora for the first time or after I run Eudora?
Will Seehorn
2018-03-09 02:03:51 UTC
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Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Replace the original before you try to connect to your ISP.. It corrects a change with the way Windows negotiates SSL connections. The original will take a long time (perhaps even timing out) the first time (per session) you try to connect with it.
t***@earthlink.net
2018-03-09 02:49:39 UTC
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Thanx so much, Will! I'm so glad this group exists and so grateful to people like you who know what you're doing and are willing to answer questions for us Eudora fanatics who aren't techies.
Will Seehorn
2018-03-09 16:52:40 UTC
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-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,

You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)

To join the group send an email to join-eudora-***@hades.listmoms.net. Make sure the subject line includes the word "Gazelle" (no quotes and the only word needed.)

You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.

Enjoy

Will
John B. Smith
2018-04-05 14:59:57 UTC
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Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.

One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.

I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.

You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-04-05 22:44:52 UTC
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I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
The ever-growing malignancy of sending email formatted in HTML...

You could try Tools/Options/Viewing Mail
[x] Use Microsoft's Viewer (which is basically saying use the Internet
Explorer rendering engine -- something that used to be considered a
security risk by many of us, since it was a way in for virus infections)

and further down, maybe also
[X] Allow executables in HTML content

Though if the message is also heavy with UTF-8, you'll get some garbage
as Eudora is normally ISO-Latin-1 (or possibly one of the other
"ISO-Latin-??" sets -- which are all 8-bit, 1-character per byte, sets.
UTF-8 can take up to 4 bytes for some obscure characters, so they show up
as multiple odd characters.
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tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
I didn't try to import the mailboxes into Pandora -- since I routinely
(about once a year) copy all my mailboxes to an archive disk, followed by
deleting all the messages from the mailboxes. So testing Pandora gave me an
excuse to create the next archive copy followed by creating the equivalent
mailbox structure in Pandora.

The Pandora "Importing Witch" (apparently the author doesn't like
Wizards <G>) has options for accounts, filters, contacts, labels, and
messages -- and Eudora is the top of the client list, the others are full
Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail (and Windows Mail
if running the 32-bit version of Pandora).
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Thibaud Taudin Chabot
2018-04-07 11:05:29 UTC
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:52:40 -0800 (PST), Will Seehorn
Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Pandora can import Eudora mailboxes and Eudora address book.
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
John B. Smith
2018-04-07 16:13:22 UTC
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:52:40 -0800 (PST), Will Seehorn
Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Pandora can import Eudora mailboxes and Eudora address book.
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-04-07 17:00:48 UTC
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Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
Rather than use Help/Send Feedback to describe your import problem to
the authors of the program. If they don't know of your situation, it won't
get worked in the future. For all I know, one layer of mailboxes might be a
limitation of the "demo" version of the program.

So how many layers do you have?

Mine (edited for brevity) looks like:

Eudora
In
Out
...
ACM
ARRL
...
Genealogy
...
Mailing Lists
...
Genealogy
...
Processed Mails
ACM
...
Saved
Sent

(I normally let inbound mail settle at the top level where it is
noticeable, and after reading I filter to either Mailing Lists or Processed
Mails).

I just tried the import "witch" selecting the Saved and Sent files of
Processed Mails.

The result in Pandora is (ignoring the structure I'd set up by hand
originally)

Mail
---
Local Mailboxes
Processed Mails
Saved
Sent
...

(I could then drag those out of the "Local Mailboxes" if I didn't want them
nested that deeply, creating a match to my Eudora scheme -- except I
already set that up by hand <G>).

Heck, just for you... I just created in Eudora

...
Processed Mails
...
testing
subtesting
testdata

and copied a message from "Saved" to "testdata".

Then ran the "Importing Witch" selecting all my Eudora mailboxes...

Guess what...

It imported all of them, including the message in testdata nested four
layers deep, and even flagged the read/unread status of recently received
mail correctly.
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John B. Smith
2018-04-07 23:07:45 UTC
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Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
Rather than use Help/Send Feedback to describe your import problem to
the authors of the program. If they don't know of your situation, it won't
get worked in the future. For all I know, one layer of mailboxes might be a
limitation of the "demo" version of the program.
So how many layers do you have?
I have approx 100 names of people (these Pandora or Thunderbird can
see to import). At top of this list is New. Clicking New and choosing
Folder I can start another list. I have 3 such folders, A-I, J-P and
Q-Z. I've had some version of Eudora since Windows 3.1. Can't remember
when I invented this system. I very seldom weed out my old forgotten
mailboxes, it takes long for Eudora to initialize. I hate settling for
some new email client that isn't as good. Just like I hate letting go
of WinXP just because Microsoft insists on selling new OSs. I've got
(haven't we all)software that won't run on Win7. I did manage to
install Eudora on Win7 and copy my data folder over which contains my
mailbox system and Win7 digested it and works. As well as it still
does in XP anyway. The fact this newsgroup exists tells me lots of
people feel like I do about Eudora.
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Eudora
In
Out
...
ACM
ARRL
...
Genealogy
...
Mailing Lists
...
Genealogy
...
Processed Mails
ACM
...
Saved
Sent
(I normally let inbound mail settle at the top level where it is
noticeable, and after reading I filter to either Mailing Lists or Processed
Mails).
I just tried the import "witch" selecting the Saved and Sent files of
Processed Mails.
The result in Pandora is (ignoring the structure I'd set up by hand
originally)
Mail
---
Local Mailboxes
Processed Mails
Saved
Sent
...
(I could then drag those out of the "Local Mailboxes" if I didn't want them
nested that deeply, creating a match to my Eudora scheme -- except I
already set that up by hand <G>).
Heck, just for you... I just created in Eudora
...
Processed Mails
...
testing
subtesting
testdata
and copied a message from "Saved" to "testdata".
Then ran the "Importing Witch" selecting all my Eudora mailboxes...
Guess what...
It imported all of them, including the message in testdata nested four
layers deep, and even flagged the read/unread status of recently received
mail correctly.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-04-07 23:24:45 UTC
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So how many layers do you have?
I have approx 100 names of people (these Pandora or Thunderbird can
see to import). At top of this list is New. Clicking New and choosing
Folder I can start another list. I have 3 such folders, A-I, J-P and
Q-Z. I've had some version of Eudora since Windows 3.1. Can't remember
Which didn't answer the question...

I asked how many LAYERS (ie; what does the hierarchy look like) -- not
how many "boxes" are in one level.

Nothing I have has a "New" displayed at the top of a "list". The
closest is on the MENU "Mailbox" where it appears below the four system
mailboxes (in/out/junk/trash) and above all the user-created mailboxes (of
which I have six, and two directories containing 3 and 9 boxes
respectively).

My test showed that Pandora had no difficulty importing a system with a
hierarchy going four layers deep.
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of WinXP just because Microsoft insists on selling new OSs. I've got
(haven't we all)software that won't run on Win7. I did manage to
I've also got software that won't run on WinXP -- because WinXP is too
old! (Drivers for my Kenwood TS-590sg).
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John B. Smith
2018-04-08 16:45:14 UTC
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On Sat, 07 Apr 2018 13:00:48 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
So how many layers do you have?
I have approx 100 names of people (these Pandora or Thunderbird can
see to import). At top of this list is New. Clicking New and choosing
Folder I can start another list. I have 3 such folders, A-I, J-P and
Q-Z. I've had some version of Eudora since Windows 3.1. Can't remember
Which didn't answer the question...
I asked how many LAYERS (ie; what does the hierarchy look like) -- not
how many "boxes" are in one level.
We may be talking apples and oranges. How do you implement your
'layers'?
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Nothing I have has a "New" displayed at the top of a "list". The
closest is on the MENU "Mailbox" where it appears below the four system
mailboxes (in/out/junk/trash) and above all the user-created mailboxes (of
which I have six, and two directories containing 3 and 9 boxes
respectively).
Clicking Mailbox gets me In, Out, Junk, Trash then a line, under which
starts New, then about 100 names of my email acquainances. After the
names there's Internet A-I, Internet Internet J-P. Internet Q-Z (three
folders I created by first clicking New.
No comprendez 'hierarchy, personalities' please explain in small
words?
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
My test showed that Pandora had no difficulty importing a system with a
hierarchy going four layers deep.
Post by John B. Smith
of WinXP just because Microsoft insists on selling new OSs. I've got
(haven't we all)software that won't run on Win7. I did manage to
I've also got software that won't run on WinXP -- because WinXP is too
old! (Drivers for my Kenwood TS-590sg).
I can't recall software that wouldn't run on XP, I sure there was
some. It's the software I've purchased and installed on XP since 2006?
that i resent being taken away from me just because Microsoft wanted
to sell a new OS.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-04-08 22:30:27 UTC
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Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
I asked how many LAYERS (ie; what does the hierarchy look like) -- not
how many "boxes" are in one level.
We may be talking apples and oranges. How do you implement your
'layers'?
Using the "mailbox" view on the left side of my Eudora layout (this is
the same area that has tabs for personalities, signatures, stationery).

The top of the hierarchy is labeled "Eudora", below it are the first
level mailboxes (in/out/junk/trash, and those I've created at that level).
Also at the first level are two "folders" (indicated with a [+]) "mailing
lists" and "processed mails". Clicking on the [+] changes it to [-] and
opens the next layer down in the hierarchy showing the mailboxes at that
level.

In my test, done just as a proof of concept, I had three entire levels
nested into "processed mails". As I'd illustrated in an earlier email.


Pandora imported all of them.

It imports them into a "local mailboxes" "folder" (hence putting them
all one level deeper in the hierarchy in Pandora).
Post by John B. Smith
I can't recall software that wouldn't run on XP, I sure there was
some. It's the software I've purchased and installed on XP since 2006?
that i resent being taken away from me just because Microsoft wanted
to sell a new OS.
Anything that made use of a 16-bit (WfW3.11) library will not run on
any 64-bit OS.

Any application that stored user data in "program files" was already a
problem in WinXP, though the OS made it easy to bypass the security.

Those (16-bit) are the only applications to which I've lost access
going to Win7 64 and Win10 64 (and the older HELP file system used by
Eudora, which is not available on Win10 due to security flaws -- it can be
installed on Win7).
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On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:30:27 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
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Post by John B. Smith
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
I asked how many LAYERS (ie; what does the hierarchy look like) -- not
how many "boxes" are in one level.
We may be talking apples and oranges. How do you implement your
'layers'?
Using the "mailbox" view on the left side of my Eudora layout (this is
the same area that has tabs for personalities, signatures, stationery).
The top of the hierarchy is labeled "Eudora", below it are the first
level mailboxes (in/out/junk/trash, and those I've created at that level).
Also at the first level are two "folders" (indicated with a [+]) "mailing
lists" and "processed mails". Clicking on the [+] changes it to [-] and
opens the next layer down in the hierarchy showing the mailboxes at that
level.
My Eudora is 7.0.0.16 Paid Mode 83. In the top hierarchy I don't have
'Eudora' and no way to add any mailboxes to this level. Under 'Trash'
I have a greyed-out line. Under that line, my next hierarchy is a
bunch of mailboxes, not folders. At the end of those I've added 3
folders (by using New and choosing Folder). There is no plus sign on
these folders. When you hover the mouse on a folder it opens and
displays the mailboxes that I've added to the folder. Per your naming
policy I'd say the contents (mailboxes) in these folders is third
hierarchy? But I don't see the folders in what Pandora imports either.
I think we may have two different versions of Eudora, and maybe that's
why Pandora doesn't find all my mailboxes. I can't remember if I
received any further offers to update Eudora further after I purchased
it, which looks to be Dec 2005. BTW I found that in my Eudora mailbox.
I've been keeping email that long.
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
In my test, done just as a proof of concept, I had three entire levels
nested into "processed mails". As I'd illustrated in an earlier email.
Pandora imported all of them.
It imports them into a "local mailboxes" "folder" (hence putting them
all one level deeper in the hierarchy in Pandora).
Post by John B. Smith
I can't recall software that wouldn't run on XP, I sure there was
some. It's the software I've purchased and installed on XP since 2006?
that i resent being taken away from me just because Microsoft wanted
to sell a new OS.
Anything that made use of a 16-bit (WfW3.11) library will not run on
any 64-bit OS.
Any application that stored user data in "program files" was already a
problem in WinXP, though the OS made it easy to bypass the security.
Those (16-bit) are the only applications to which I've lost access
going to Win7 64 and Win10 64 (and the older HELP file system used by
Eudora, which is not available on Win10 due to security flaws -- it can be
installed on Win7).
One of my favorite peeves is Photoshop5 not working in Win7 (64 bit).
I can't make out if it is 16 bit. I noticed I've got it running in
Win95 compatability mode in XP. That is one hellish expensive program
to buy a new version of!
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-04-13 17:32:01 UTC
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My Eudora is 7.0.0.16 Paid Mode 83. In the top hierarchy I don't have
'Eudora' and no way to add any mailboxes to this level. Under 'Trash'
I have a greyed-out line. Under that line, my next hierarchy is a
You are still describing the MENU "Mailboxes"... Something I pretty
much never access. My description is the tree/hierarchy pane shown on the
left in my view, with tabs at the bottom for signatures, stationery, and
personalities. This pane is what is displayed using Tools/Mailboxes (or any
of the other four items in the group, opening to the specified tab).

I'm running 7.1.0.9, using one of the publically released "paid mode"
registrations (Generic User, with some long ugly number).
Post by John B. Smith
I think we may have two different versions of Eudora, and maybe that's
why Pandora doesn't find all my mailboxes. I can't remember if I
received any further offers to update Eudora further after I purchased
Shouldn't matter... Eudora mailboxes are just file pairs located in the
Eudora data directory -- an MBX file and a TOC file, and lower levels are
just a Windows subdirectory that contains MBX/TOC pairs.

MBX files are just a variation of UNIX MBOX format (proper MBOX has
each message identified by a FROM <***@domain> line -- which is NOT the
internal FROM: header -- where Eudora just has FROM ???@??? (anytime a
message has a line that starts with FROM, MBOX format turns it into >FROM
so it doesn't confuse the parser into thinking that is the start of a new
message).
Post by John B. Smith
One of my favorite peeves is Photoshop5 not working in Win7 (64 bit).
I can't make out if it is 16 bit. I noticed I've got it running in
Win95 compatability mode in XP. That is one hellish expensive program
to buy a new version of!
That is old enough to have some 16-bit components. PS 5.5 is the last
usable on Win95. 7.0.1 is the last for Win98. CS4 (v11) is the last for
WinXP SP2. CS6 for WinXP SP3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_version_history#5.0

Note that CS6 was the last version was available as a purchase -- All
later Photoshop are "subscription" ($50 per MONTH) and may need network
access to validate on start-up. And you couldn't upgrade after all this
time either -- Adobe, as I recall, only allowed half-price upgrades for a 2
version period. My last upgrade was for CS4 -- from CS2, from 7, from 5
(needed CS4 to get Camera Raw for my Canon EOS-50D, CS2 supported my older
EOS-20D). CS4 runs on Win10 64 (once I found the predecessor CDs to
validate that it was a legitimate "upgrade" install)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Cloud#Criticism
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:32:01 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by John B. Smith
My Eudora is 7.0.0.16 Paid Mode 83. In the top hierarchy I don't have
'Eudora' and no way to add any mailboxes to this level. Under 'Trash'
I have a greyed-out line. Under that line, my next hierarchy is a
You are still describing the MENU "Mailboxes"... Something I pretty
much never access. My description is the tree/hierarchy pane shown on the
left in my view, with tabs at the bottom for signatures, stationery, and
personalities. This pane is what is displayed using Tools/Mailboxes (or any
of the other four items in the group, opening to the specified tab).
I'm running 7.1.0.9, using one of the publically released "paid mode"
registrations (Generic User, with some long ugly number).
Post by John B. Smith
I think we may have two different versions of Eudora, and maybe that's
why Pandora doesn't find all my mailboxes. I can't remember if I
received any further offers to update Eudora further after I purchased
Shouldn't matter... Eudora mailboxes are just file pairs located in the
Eudora data directory -- an MBX file and a TOC file, and lower levels are
just a Windows subdirectory that contains MBX/TOC pairs.
MBX files are just a variation of UNIX MBOX format (proper MBOX has
message has a line that starts with FROM, MBOX format turns it into >FROM
so it doesn't confuse the parser into thinking that is the start of a new
message).
Post by John B. Smith
One of my favorite peeves is Photoshop5 not working in Win7 (64 bit).
I can't make out if it is 16 bit. I noticed I've got it running in
Win95 compatability mode in XP. That is one hellish expensive program
to buy a new version of!
That is old enough to have some 16-bit components. PS 5.5 is the last
usable on Win95. 7.0.1 is the last for Win98. CS4 (v11) is the last for
WinXP SP2. CS6 for WinXP SP3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_version_history#5.0
Note that CS6 was the last version was available as a purchase -- All
later Photoshop are "subscription" ($50 per MONTH) and may need network
access to validate on start-up. And you couldn't upgrade after all this
time either -- Adobe, as I recall, only allowed half-price upgrades for a 2
version period. My last upgrade was for CS4 -- from CS2, from 7, from 5
(needed CS4 to get Camera Raw for my Canon EOS-50D, CS2 supported my older
EOS-20D). CS4 runs on Win10 64 (once I found the predecessor CDs to
validate that it was a legitimate "upgrade" install)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Cloud#Criticism
I don't use Photoshop or Gimp. I have provided a link to below GIMP.
It is mentioned a lot of times as a possible replacement for Photoshop
and is free.

https://www.gimp.org/

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John, I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you were able to get Pandora to successfully important your Eudora mailboxes?

Tely
Steve Urbach
2018-04-07 17:37:21 UTC
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 13:05:29 +0200, Thibaud Taudin Chabot
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Post by John B. Smith
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:52:40 -0800 (PST), Will Seehorn
Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Pandora can import Eudora mailboxes and Eudora address book.
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
I also use a multi layer system. a few are 3 folders deep before the mailbox.

I see the Layers in the X64 version

What I have issues with are Personalities (7 Accounts) That failed. Or is
that the 'Trial Limit,' kicking in?
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What I have issues with are Personalities (7 Accounts) That failed. Or is
that the 'Trial Limit,' kicking in?
http://pandoramail.roomforum.com/t43-benefits-of-registration-for-a-user

At that date: 1 personality, 1 stationery, 1 signature, 1 label..

Build 1.5.2 allowed more than one filter in demo mode (current build
1.7.4)
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On Sat, 07 Apr 2018 10:37:21 -0700, Steve Urbach
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What I have issues with are Personalities (7 Accounts) That failed. Or is
that the 'Trial Limit,' kicking in?
http://pandoramail.roomforum.com/t43-benefits-of-registration-for-a-user
At that date: 1 personality, 1 stationery, 1 signature, 1 label..
Build 1.5.2 allowed more than one filter in demo mode (current build
1.7.4)
Thanks
I paid the fee and the personalities imported just fine.
g***@rr.com
2018-04-09 15:22:24 UTC
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Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
On Sat, 07 Apr 2018 10:37:21 -0700, Steve Urbach
Post by Steve Urbach
What I have issues with are Personalities (7 Accounts) That failed. Or is
that the 'Trial Limit,' kicking in?
http://pandoramail.roomforum.com/t43-benefits-of-registration-for-a-user
At that date: 1 personality, 1 stationery, 1 signature, 1 label..
Build 1.5.2 allowed more than one filter in demo mode (current build
1.7.4)
Thanks
I paid the fee and the personalities imported just fine.
the following was posted several years ago and I have followed it. I
never keep any new email in the In box. I use filters to move any mail
from the In box to a separate mail box that I consider my MAIN source.

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
One thing you can to do limit Eudora's impact is to keep your In, Out,
and Trash boxes as empty as possible.

They are loaded into system memory and consuming GDI resources the
entire time Eudora is active.

I have always limited them by filtering all my incoming and outgoing
mail into "personalityIn" and "personalitySent" mailboxes for each of
my personalities. That way only the oddball piece of mail hits my
Inbox, and nothing is in Out after it has been sent. Trash is emptied
every time I close Eudora.
Thibaud Taudin Chabot
2018-04-07 20:57:30 UTC
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Post by Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by John B. Smith
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:52:40 -0800 (PST), Will Seehorn
Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Pandora can import Eudora mailboxes and Eudora address book.
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
I mentioned 2 items. You looked/used only the first one.
Why not the other one?
John B. Smith
2018-04-07 23:13:36 UTC
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Post by John B. Smith
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 13:05:29 +0200, Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by John B. Smith
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:52:40 -0800 (PST), Will Seehorn
Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Pandora can import Eudora mailboxes and Eudora address book.
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
I mentioned 2 items. You looked/used only the first one.
Why not the other one?
I just tried for the mailboxes, since I couldn't do that I wasn't
interested in importing Eudora's address book.
Thibaud Taudin Chabot
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 22:57:30 +0200, Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by John B. Smith
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 13:05:29 +0200, Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by John B. Smith
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:52:40 -0800 (PST), Will Seehorn
Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Pandora can import Eudora mailboxes and Eudora address book.
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
I mentioned 2 items. You looked/used only the first one.
Why not the other one?
I just tried for the mailboxes, since I couldn't do that I wasn't
interested in importing Eudora's address book.
I mentioned±
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.

But if you don´t report you´ll never get a solution for your problem.
Reporting difficulties like you encounter and reporting them improves
the usefulness of that program. I think you are looking for that. So if
you don´t report it you´ll probably will never get it.
Brana (developer of Pandora) is in general very keen to this kind of
reports.
John B. Smith
2018-04-08 16:47:08 UTC
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 22:57:30 +0200, Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by John B. Smith
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Post by John B. Smith
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:52:40 -0800 (PST), Will Seehorn
Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Pandora can import Eudora mailboxes and Eudora address book.
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
I mentioned 2 items. You looked/used only the first one.
Why not the other one?
I just tried for the mailboxes, since I couldn't do that I wasn't
interested in importing Eudora's address book.
I mentioned±
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
But if you don´t report you´ll never get a solution for your problem.
Reporting difficulties like you encounter and reporting them improves
the usefulness of that program. I think you are looking for that. So if
you don´t report it you´ll probably will never get it.
Brana (developer of Pandora) is in general very keen to this kind of
reports.
If so I bet he watches this newsgroup like a hawk.
Thibaud Taudin Chabot
2018-04-09 09:27:54 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:00:15 +0200, Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by John B. Smith
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 22:57:30 +0200, Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by John B. Smith
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 13:05:29 +0200, Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by Thibaud Taudin Chabot
Post by John B. Smith
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:52:40 -0800 (PST), Will Seehorn
Post by Will Seehorn
Post by t***@earthlink.net
-- How well does Eudora work on Windows 10? I'm currently using Windows 7, but I'm worried I'll lose a lot of functionality if I have to switch to Win 10.
-- Is there any other currently supported email program to which I can export my Eudora mailboxes where I won't lose my emails?
I'm not a techie, so please don't respond with complicated technical jargon that I won't understand. :-)
Thanks,
Tely
Tely,
You're very welcome, but almost everything I posted was learned on a Eudora specific mailing list. It's far more active than this group and has several very knowledgeable people on it (I'm not one of them, I'm just good at recognizing other people's good ideas and stealing them!)
You'll get a welcome message which you should keep as it has useful information. The group doesn't top or bottom post. Instead you are supposed to delete stuff your not replying to and intersperse your answers next to the comment you are responding to.
Enjoy
Will
I think this is my first post on this group. I've lurked for years. I
have Eudora 7.0.0.16 paid, running mostly on XP, though I also
installed it on Win7. Mainly I use XP. I've long noticed that I don't
get 'all' of the message on a lot of ads and other stuff.
One this morning from Swanson Vitamins has a box with a red X and
SwansonVitamins.com (theres a bunch of these boxes). If I click Send
To Browser the whole ad comes up with pictures. I surmise that modern
advertisers don't want to send the whole thing to me but expect my
email client to go out and get them itself. Is there a way to make
Eudora do that? If I go to the ISP's (Spectrum) email site it
automatically goes out and gets the contents of Swanson's 'box'. Too
bad I don't want to use Spectrum, I want to use my out dated Eudora.
I have also experimented with other email clients. Can't remember if I
tried Pandora or not. None I tried will import my system of Eudora
mailboxes. In Eudora I'm able to group them into a handy system. I
have one group for personal acquaintances, 3 subgroups for businesses
I've done anything with (A thru I, etc). I find these mailboxes
extremely handy for a number of things, not just storing email. I
don't want to give it up.
You may have noticed I used no tech jargon in this message. That's
cause I'm too dumb to understand the stuff you guys spout. Can you
simplify it for me?
Pandora can import Eudora mailboxes and Eudora address book.
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
Installed Pandora. It can import the top layer of my Eudora mailboxes,
my personal contacts. It can't see the second layer where resides my 3
folders of business mailboxes A-I, J-P and Q-Z. Must be I'm the only
one to ever use this system to keep track of Eudora mailboxes.
Uninstalled Pandora.
I mentioned 2 items. You looked/used only the first one.
Why not the other one?
I just tried for the mailboxes, since I couldn't do that I wasn't
interested in importing Eudora's address book.
I mentioned±
Pandora has a good response on reported problems.
But if you don´t report you´ll never get a solution for your problem.
Reporting difficulties like you encounter and reporting them improves
the usefulness of that program. I think you are looking for that. So if
you don´t report it you´ll probably will never get it.
Brana (developer of Pandora) is in general very keen to this kind of
reports.
If so I bet he watches this newsgroup like a hawk.
I think you don't know how a software developer works.
They are not searching for malfunctions and problems.
They only handle reported malfunctions and problems. They come from
serious users
And if Brana follows a message list I'll be certain she will follow the
list maintained by Katrina which is much more dedicated to Eudora
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-04-09 14:05:29 UTC
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And if Brana follows a message list I'll be certain she will follow the
list maintained by Katrina which is much more dedicated to Eudora
I suspect even that would come second after the little used web forum
on the Pandora site itself.
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Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
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