On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 22:16:55, "***@gmail.com"
<***@gmail.com> wrote (my responses usually follow
points raised):
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Post by ***@gmail.comSomeone is supposedly working on getting Eudora up and running again in
a more modern development environment, but I haven't heard any news of
progress for ages. I think maybe it's going down for the third time.
Do give Pandora a look; I've just checker her last message, and my blind
friend is still using it after her switch a week or three ago.
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Post by ***@gmail.comYeah, GG is the pits, but I barely use newsgroups anymore. The
technical groups here seem to have withered on the vine. This one is
I still get useful help in the Windows 'groups, and one I follow
(nominally about a radio soap, but now just a group of friends
[basically social media predating - it started in 1995! - all the
others], though we do still discuss the soap some of the time) is still
pretty active. And one about broadcast technology is still well. But
yes, usenet is a shadow of what it once was.
Post by ***@gmail.comone of the few sources of info on Eudora, so I hang around. I'm just
not interested in newsgroups enough to try to keep a reader working.
Fairy Nuff. (Though I wouldn't say there's a lot of "keeping it going"
involved with most of news clients - it's only if the server introduces
changes, which they don't often.)
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Post by ***@gmail.comIn general email is pretty simple. Once working it keeps working
unless the tools has issues like T-bird. The real problem with T-bird
was the near lack of support. It's just not worth the effort. GG
Strange; I've always thought TB was one of those with _good_ support -
not from mozilla, who are hopeless (and keep breaking it if you have
"up"dates enabled, but from other people - and most email and news
providers have a page specific to it, and to few others (other than
Outlook of course).
I've little experience of it as a newsreader, mind.
Post by ***@gmail.comsucks totally, then sucked some more when they changed it again. I
would say each time they change it, it gets a little worse, but that
would be a lie, it got a LOT worse this last time. They strip out
multiple spaces between words so you can't sen ascii art, aka, text
based line drawings anymore on top of literally the worst UI I have
ever seen since pine.
Pretty dire that! (I too remember pine.) I wouldn't know what to suggest
other than TB _for news_; there still does seem to be support/enthusiasm
for (Free) Agent (from users).
Post by ***@gmail.comIt's hard to imaging Google practically owning the world and continuing
to make this interface worse every time they touch it!
I don't know; increasing degradation in many spheres seems to be our
Post by ***@gmail.comThe other day I was kindof bitching out my insurance company for having
their heads up their bureaucratic asses and actually said, "If Google
sold insurance they would make this easy". lol I say stuff like that
to my bank too. Banks don't understand the "online" part of online
banking. Anything past online 101 they want you to come into an
office. I guess these are two very conservative industries.
Where are you? I'm in UK, and I get the opposite impression: they _want_
you to do everything online, and make it awkward to do things "in
branch"!
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Post by ***@gmail.comPost by J. P. Gilliver (John)If you send plain text, that's what is sent - no size information is
conveyed. In Eudora, I _think_ that's Tools | Options | Styled Text,
then ensure "Show formatting toolbar" is _un_ticked. To change the font
_you_ see while composing, I _think_ it's Tools | Options | Fonts |
Screen. (Sorry to sound vague: I don't use Eudora myself, though I have
it installed to help others.)
I'd like to be able to send HTML which is what I think you are calling
(Not me - Eudora calls it that.)
Post by ***@gmail.com"styled text" in order to preserve in my replies the HTML others have
I see. I have no solution for that, I'm afraid!
Post by ***@gmail.comsent. It is set for "both" on sending.
Which means I think that your emails contain both a plain text part and
an HTML part; however, you probably only get to see the HTML one while
composing, if you have it set!
Post by ***@gmail.comI changed the fonts to large under "message" and left it medium on
printer and screen. Is "screen" reading mail and "message" writing?
Sorry, I don't know. It may also be that one of those settings (I'd
guess "screen") is ignored if you have "Styled text" enabled.
I wonder if you could see things bigger by changing a setting in Windows
- there's something about percentage text size up to 125% or 150%;
whether that would work with Eudora, I don't know. Something that would
work of course would be reducing your screen resolution, but that's
drastic, and gives you less space to do everything. (Or same resolution
but a bigger monitor!)
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Post by ***@gmail.comPost by J. P. Gilliver (John)Just no records of my outbox. So I still backup my Eudora mailboxes,
all 4 GB.
Probably worth shrinking that - can you save and then remove attachments
in Eudora?
Don't care. 4 GB is not so much. I have 8 GB in my work directory and
Not by modern standards, no. I was wondering if Eudora might be groaning
under it, but if it isn't, fine.
Post by ***@gmail.comtons under the downloads folder which is 90% useful stuff... or at
Ah, if Eudora keeps attachments in a separate folder called downloads,
that's probably fine. (Though if that means you have 4 or 8 GB of
emails _excluding_ attachments, that's impressive!)
Post by ***@gmail.comleast stuff I don't want to toss out for fear of making a mistake.
I don't toss out attachments, just take them out of emails.
(I don't know that one - is it like YMMV?)
Post by ***@gmail.comThanks for the help. It makes a difference.
Glad to chat; sorry if I can't help that much, as I don't use Eudora!
(If you're wondering, I use Turnpike, for both email and news - that
died in 2007! But I just have muscle memory for it [not to mention
emails and news posts back to 199x, though I think I could transfer
those if I had to.])
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
... although we regard it as undesirable for children to drive cars, own
credit cards or enter public houses, we don't prevent grown-ups from choosing
to do so. (Quoted by Paul Bray in Computing, 3 October 1996.)