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Status of Listmoms list for Eudora
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Ignataz
2022-06-04 16:47:11 UTC
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Is http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/ still active?

I tried subscribing and got a bounce

The Eudora - win list used to be active and useful, although I believe the archive of responses never become available (so the homepage still says, which has not been updated since 2009).
Jim H
2022-06-06 15:42:28 UTC
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 09:47:11 -0700 (PDT), in
Post by Ignataz
Is http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/ still active?
I tried subscribing and got a bounce
The Eudora - win list used to be active and useful, although I believe the archive of responses never become available (so the homepage still says, which has not been updated since 2009).
Yes, it's still (and very) active. And a great resource.

At a guess, I'd say your problems with subscribing probably arose from
either mistyping or failing to follow directions. Then again, anything
can have a short term problem. Try again. Read all the directions
BEFORE clicking a link to join. Post details of any messages/bounces
you get if it doesn't work.

An archive would be nice. The same thing is covered multiple times
weekly, sometimes incorrectly or confusingly. It would be nice to be
able to point to "See message #12345" for a tried and true response to
the same old thing... like problems accessing GMail that are problems
caused by GMail, not Eudora.
--
Jim H
DaveH2
2022-06-07 11:19:17 UTC
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Post by Ignataz
Is http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/ still active?
I tried subscribing and got a bounce
The Eudora - win list used to be active and useful, although I believe the archive of responses never become available (so the homepage still says, which has not been updated since 2009).
I'm a subscriber and I haven't had anything from it for weeks.
I did send a test message to it a couple of days ago, and it didn't bounce back, but there was no response.
I've now e-mailed Katrina Knight, one of the Listmoms, so hopefully she'll let me know what's happened.
Ignataz
2022-06-12 12:37:56 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Post by Ignataz
Is http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/ still active?
I'm a subscriber and I haven't had anything from it for weeks.
I did send a test message to it a couple of days ago, and it
didn't bounce back, but there was no response.
I've now e-mailed Katrina Knight, one of the Listmoms, so
hopefully she'll let me know what's happened.
Listmoms has a presence on Facebook www.facebook.com/Listmoms but it's been quiet there too, and no response to a message I sent. It seems very old school - using old personal computers in a garage as local servers.

Unfair of me to complain about their very useful (and free!) service, but they are -- or maybe were -- a cranky bunch, and unless they make their archive available on archive.org or somewhere it's gone.
Dr Sparx
2022-06-12 14:05:23 UTC
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I am a subscriber myself, and I can confirm that the mailing list is alive and being actively used with a handful new messages every day. I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I saw a some messages about list messages not coming through to some users. This may have something to do with spam filters of some email providers gone rogue.
DaveH2
2022-06-12 16:59:13 UTC
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Post by Dr Sparx
I am a subscriber myself, and I can confirm that the mailing list is alive and being actively used with a handful new messages every day. I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I saw a some messages about list messages not coming through to some users. This may have something to do with spam filters of some email providers gone rogue.
That was probably about me!
I'm not receiving any messages from the list, and haven't been for about six weeks now, although I can post to the list OK.
I'm using Hotmail/Outlook for the list now after having endless problems with Yahoo-based e-mails.
It worked fine for months, but appears to have now suddenly stopped working, cause unknown.
I think that the list server has found its way onto a spamming blacklist, so the Outlook server is now rejecting messages from it.
I've opened a support case with Outlook about this.
Jim H
2022-06-16 14:05:13 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 09:59:13 -0700 (PDT), in
Post by DaveH2
I am a subscriber myself, and I can confirm that the mailing list is alive and being actively used with a handful new messages every day. I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I saw a some messages about list messages not coming through to some users. This may have something to do with spam filters of some email providers gone rogue.
That was probably about me!
I'm not receiving any messages from the list, and haven't been for about six weeks now, although I can post to the list OK.
I'm using Hotmail/Outlook for the list now after having endless problems with Yahoo-based e-mails.
It worked fine for months, but appears to have now suddenly stopped working, cause unknown.
I think that the list server has found its way onto a spamming blacklist, so the Outlook server is now rejecting messages from it.
I've opened a support case with Outlook about this.
The freemail providers have never offered top notch service and of
late GMail and Outlook have been especially problematic due to changes
on their end. The Listmom's list has covered the GMail problems and
solution ad nauseum.
--
Jim H
Leonard Parsons
2022-08-14 11:34:10 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Post by Dr Sparx
I am a subscriber myself, and I can confirm that the mailing list is alive and being actively used with a handful new messages every day. I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I saw a some messages about list messages not coming through to some users. This may have something to do with spam filters of some email providers gone rogue.
That was probably about me!
I'm not receiving any messages from the list, and haven't been for about six weeks now, although I can post to the list OK.
I'm using Hotmail/Outlook for the list now after having endless problems with Yahoo-based e-mails.
It worked fine for months, but appears to have now suddenly stopped working, cause unknown.
I think that the list server has found its way onto a spamming blacklist, so the Outlook server is now rejecting messages from it.
I've opened a support case with Outlook about this.
I no longer get mailings from eudora-***@hades.listmoms.net. For someone who is getting messages from the list, would you tell me if this is still the sender. If not, who is. Thank you.
DaveH2
2022-08-14 14:05:53 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Post by Dr Sparx
I am a subscriber myself, and I can confirm that the mailing list is alive and being actively used with a handful new messages every day. I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I saw a some messages about list messages not coming through to some users. This may have something to do with spam filters of some email providers gone rogue.
That was probably about me!
I'm not receiving any messages from the list, and haven't been for about six weeks now, although I can post to the list OK.
I'm using Hotmail/Outlook for the list now after having endless problems with Yahoo-based e-mails.
It worked fine for months, but appears to have now suddenly stopped working, cause unknown.
I think that the list server has found its way onto a spamming blacklist, so the Outlook server is now rejecting messages from it.
I've opened a support case with Outlook about this.
That is the correct sending address, I'm now getting messages from it again.
The list server was moved to a new physical location some weeks ago, and that resulted in it getting a new IP address.
As soon as that happened, I started getting the messages again, which I think proves that the original IP address was on a blacklist.
Assuming the messages aren't just being caught in your provider's spam filter, which presumably you've checked, it could be a blacklist problem again, but I hope not!
Cheers, Dave.
Virg54 L
2022-09-08 03:17:07 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Post by DaveH2
Post by Dr Sparx
I am a subscriber myself, and I can confirm that the mailing list is alive and being actively used with a handful new messages every day. I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I saw a some messages about list messages not coming through to some users. This may have something to do with spam filters of some email providers gone rogue.
That was probably about me!
I'm not receiving any messages from the list, and haven't been for about six weeks now, although I can post to the list OK.
I'm using Hotmail/Outlook for the list now after having endless problems with Yahoo-based e-mails.
It worked fine for months, but appears to have now suddenly stopped working, cause unknown.
I think that the list server has found its way onto a spamming blacklist, so the Outlook server is now rejecting messages from it.
I've opened a support case with Outlook about this.
That is the correct sending address, I'm now getting messages from it again.
The list server was moved to a new physical location some weeks ago, and that resulted in it getting a new IP address.
As soon as that happened, I started getting the messages again, which I think proves that the original IP address was on a blacklist.
Assuming the messages aren't just being caught in your provider's spam filter, which presumably you've checked, it could be a blacklist problem again, but I hope not!
Cheers, Dave.
Well, I have not gotten any postings for months but life has gotten in the way of me following up to find out why.

I had a SSD die and have been relying on my phone for my email communications. The crazy part is that getting into my provider"s website (to check my spam folders} directly has been brutal torture!

Some of you have mentioned similar pain with Worldnet.att.net, or att.net, which was moved to Yahoo.com, which was then moved to Currently.com, which has turned it all into a stinking pile of stupid.

I am now blocked every time I try to sign in with "too many failed attempts" window, no matter how many hours/days go by, waiting for a reset...

At various times in the past, it was invariably, a problem with one of these three sites...depending on which was in charge at the time...

Since I am not getting any posting from ***@hades.listmoms.net either in my Inbox or Spam, I must not be on the "mailing list"...or, "listmoms" has taken a break, voluntary or not...

I could use a little help...

Recommendations of the best site to download a clean version of Eudora.
g***@rr.com
2022-09-08 11:42:28 UTC
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 20:17:07 -0700 (PDT), Virg54 L
Post by Virg54 L
Post by DaveH2
Post by DaveH2
I am a subscriber myself, and I can confirm that the mailing list is alive and being actively used with a handful new messages every day. I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I saw a some messages about list messages not coming through to some users. This may have something to do with spam filters of some email providers gone rogue.
That was probably about me!
I'm not receiving any messages from the list, and haven't been for about six weeks now, although I can post to the list OK.
I'm using Hotmail/Outlook for the list now after having endless problems with Yahoo-based e-mails.
It worked fine for months, but appears to have now suddenly stopped working, cause unknown.
I think that the list server has found its way onto a spamming blacklist, so the Outlook server is now rejecting messages from it.
I've opened a support case with Outlook about this.
That is the correct sending address, I'm now getting messages from it again.
The list server was moved to a new physical location some weeks ago, and that resulted in it getting a new IP address.
As soon as that happened, I started getting the messages again, which I think proves that the original IP address was on a blacklist.
Assuming the messages aren't just being caught in your provider's spam filter, which presumably you've checked, it could be a blacklist problem again, but I hope not!
Cheers, Dave.
Well, I have not gotten any postings for months but life has gotten in the way of me following up to find out why.
I had a SSD die and have been relying on my phone for my email communications. The crazy part is that getting into my provider"s website (to check my spam folders} directly has been brutal torture!
Some of you have mentioned similar pain with Worldnet.att.net, or att.net, which was moved to Yahoo.com, which was then moved to Currently.com, which has turned it all into a stinking pile of stupid.
I am now blocked every time I try to sign in with "too many failed attempts" window, no matter how many hours/days go by, waiting for a reset...
At various times in the past, it was invariably, a problem with one of these three sites...depending on which was in charge at the time...
I could use a little help...
Recommendations of the best site to download a clean version of Eudora.
The problem may not be with Eudora. I use Eudora every day with 2
Gmail accounts and 2 Comcast email accounts. I do not use it with
Yahoo email by the way.

I have a friend that has Bellsouth.net as her email and it has been a
battle getting it to work on her computer. It works just fine as long
as you uses their App on her tablet or phone. I can sometimes get
Bluemail program to work on her computer when the web page Yahoo.com
will not load.

I found on her computer sometimes it would take several minutes for
Yahoo.com to load. You could tell that all the "Ads" on the main
screen would not load. At the bottom left of the screen I would see
strange messages about TSL or something like that being able to reach
a web site.

I was able to capture this error message once when trying to load
mail.Yahoo.com. I was never able to figure it how from the web sites
that I found with suggestions. Mail.yahoo.com problems comes and goes
day by day. Some days it will load just fine other days it can take
several minutes to load. On those days, Bluemail goes and get the
email just fine.

\\\\\\\\\\\
Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to mail.yahoo.com.
PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Sometimes if I used Opera it would load when it would not load in
Firefox. On 3 other Windows 10 and 1 Win 7 computers it would load
just connecting to the same hardware in the house. All computers were
WIRED not wireless by the way.

At one point I had used an Ad Blocker just for Yahoo mail and Firefox.
I don't know if that contributed to the problem or not. I tried to
remove the Ad Blocker but that did not help. I have tried "Resetting
Firefox".

For some strange reason I could not get the reset password to work
using Firefox on either her computer or my computer. Once I used
Chrome I could reset the password. My wife uses plain Yahoo.com email
and it works fine on her phone and table but recently on her Windows
10 computer Yahoo.com does not want to load when you first get to the
web page.

I ran into lots of issues getting her Bellsouth.net email to work. I
worked over 3 days trying to get help from ATT which is who she had
her cell service with. They never got it to work right.

I was finally able to get it to work. I found that for some reason her
version of Firefox and also Firefox on my computer could not reset her
password, BUT, if I use Chrome as the browser it worked OK.

Just thought this might be useful in case you run into any problems
down the road.

As you know ATT uses Yahoo email for their email. They have changed
their relationship with Yahoo. Also Yahoo has changed how they handle
Passwords with 3rd party programs. Other companies are doing the same
thing, requiring a "special" password if you want to use something
like Thunderbird, Blue Mail, etc.

If you do a Google Search for: yahoo mail login not working
you will see all the hits on this issue so it sounds like it is a
common problem.

One solution for my friend was to switch her to Gmail as a backup.
Since the ATT Apps works fine on her phone, I have her forward any
emails she really want to print or read on her computer to just
forward the ATT email to her Gmail account.

Just some ideas to consider. I never found what I consider to be a
real solution on my wife's computer and it is even worse trying to
deal with my friend's Bellsouth.net email account. I sent several days
trying to get help from ATT support. One agent even suggested I take
her phone to the ATT store for help. They just laughed at me when I
told the Rep in the store that their phone support told me to go the
ATT store. By the way, my friend is on ATT for her cell service and
used to have UVersa which was also terrible.
jetjock
2022-09-08 15:10:06 UTC
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Post by g***@rr.com
On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 20:17:07 -0700 (PDT), Virg54 L
Post by Virg54 L
Post by DaveH2
Post by DaveH2
I am a subscriber myself, and I can confirm that the mailing list is alive and being actively used with a handful new messages every day. I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I saw a some messages about list messages not coming through to some users. This may have something to do with spam filters of some email providers gone rogue.
That was probably about me!
I'm not receiving any messages from the list, and haven't been for about six weeks now, although I can post to the list OK.
I'm using Hotmail/Outlook for the list now after having endless problems with Yahoo-based e-mails.
It worked fine for months, but appears to have now suddenly stopped working, cause unknown.
I think that the list server has found its way onto a spamming blacklist, so the Outlook server is now rejecting messages from it.
I've opened a support case with Outlook about this.
That is the correct sending address, I'm now getting messages from it again.
The list server was moved to a new physical location some weeks ago, and that resulted in it getting a new IP address.
As soon as that happened, I started getting the messages again, which I think proves that the original IP address was on a blacklist.
Assuming the messages aren't just being caught in your provider's spam filter, which presumably you've checked, it could be a blacklist problem again, but I hope not!
Cheers, Dave.
Well, I have not gotten any postings for months but life has gotten in the way of me following up to find out why.
I had a SSD die and have been relying on my phone for my email communications. The crazy part is that getting into my provider"s website (to check my spam folders} directly has been brutal torture!
Some of you have mentioned similar pain with Worldnet.att.net, or att.net, which was moved to Yahoo.com, which was then moved to Currently.com, which has turned it all into a stinking pile of stupid.
I am now blocked every time I try to sign in with "too many failed attempts" window, no matter how many hours/days go by, waiting for a reset...
At various times in the past, it was invariably, a problem with one of these three sites...depending on which was in charge at the time...
I could use a little help...
Recommendations of the best site to download a clean version of Eudora.
The problem may not be with Eudora. I use Eudora every day with 2
Gmail accounts and 2 Comcast email accounts. I do not use it with
Yahoo email by the way.
I have a friend that has Bellsouth.net as her email and it has been a
battle getting it to work on her computer. It works just fine as long
as you uses their App on her tablet or phone. I can sometimes get
Bluemail program to work on her computer when the web page Yahoo.com
will not load.
I found on her computer sometimes it would take several minutes for
Yahoo.com to load. You could tell that all the "Ads" on the main
screen would not load. At the bottom left of the screen I would see
strange messages about TSL or something like that being able to reach
a web site.
I was able to capture this error message once when trying to load
mail.Yahoo.com. I was never able to figure it how from the web sites
that I found with suggestions. Mail.yahoo.com problems comes and goes
day by day. Some days it will load just fine other days it can take
several minutes to load. On those days, Bluemail goes and get the
email just fine.
\\\\\\\\\\\
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to mail.yahoo.com.
PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Sometimes if I used Opera it would load when it would not load in
Firefox. On 3 other Windows 10 and 1 Win 7 computers it would load
just connecting to the same hardware in the house. All computers were
WIRED not wireless by the way.
At one point I had used an Ad Blocker just for Yahoo mail and Firefox.
I don't know if that contributed to the problem or not. I tried to
remove the Ad Blocker but that did not help. I have tried "Resetting
Firefox".
For some strange reason I could not get the reset password to work
using Firefox on either her computer or my computer. Once I used
Chrome I could reset the password. My wife uses plain Yahoo.com email
and it works fine on her phone and table but recently on her Windows
10 computer Yahoo.com does not want to load when you first get to the
web page.
I ran into lots of issues getting her Bellsouth.net email to work. I
worked over 3 days trying to get help from ATT which is who she had
her cell service with. They never got it to work right.
I was finally able to get it to work. I found that for some reason her
version of Firefox and also Firefox on my computer could not reset her
password, BUT, if I use Chrome as the browser it worked OK.
Just thought this might be useful in case you run into any problems
down the road.
As you know ATT uses Yahoo email for their email. They have changed
their relationship with Yahoo. Also Yahoo has changed how they handle
Passwords with 3rd party programs. Other companies are doing the same
thing, requiring a "special" password if you want to use something
like Thunderbird, Blue Mail, etc.
If you do a Google Search for: yahoo mail login not working
you will see all the hits on this issue so it sounds like it is a
common problem.
One solution for my friend was to switch her to Gmail as a backup.
Since the ATT Apps works fine on her phone, I have her forward any
emails she really want to print or read on her computer to just
forward the ATT email to her Gmail account.
Just some ideas to consider. I never found what I consider to be a
real solution on my wife's computer and it is even worse trying to
deal with my friend's Bellsouth.net email account. I sent several days
trying to get help from ATT support. One agent even suggested I take
her phone to the ATT store for help. They just laughed at me when I
told the Rep in the store that their phone support told me to go the
ATT store. By the way, my friend is on ATT for her cell service and
used to have UVersa which was also terrible.
I just read your post quickly so I may have missed something. But,
just about all of the recent email problems I've seen on the "list"
have been solved by one (or both) of two things: installing the latest
Hermes update from Pete Maclean which enables Eudora to use up-to-date
SSL protocols, and/or getting an app specific password for the server
in question. I'd try the Hermes update first.

Here are directions for Hermes:

You can download the Hermes installer here
<https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/hermsetup.exe/download>.
Install it over top of your current Eudora installation. When it asks
about whether you're doing a new installation or changing an existing
one, tell it new. If it says it can't install the runtime files
because a newer version is already installed, just continue on. If
that's already installed, it doesn't need to be installed again.

Here is info about app specific password:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12409/microsoft-account-app-passwords-and-two-step-verification

Hope this helps!
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