Eudora steals focus from anything else.

[mm]

When version 1.9 finds mail that goes in any mailbox but the inbox, if
it is set to display a Filter Report, doing so takes the focus from
whatever other program I'm in. Eudora comes to the fore, and my
program is hidden.

Is this also true of version 6?

If so, that would be an incentive to move to version 6.

I've paid for version 6, but I still haven't figured out how to
retrieve new headers for just one newsgrroup. It has the option of
one desk and one something else, but I keep dl'ing for every ng I've
extracted from the list of all ngs, or at least most of them. I guess
that is a separate question. :) How do I get headers for just one
ng in version 6!

Thanks.

[John H Meyers]

Post by mm
When version 1.9 finds mail that goes in any mailbox but the inbox, if
it is set to display a Filter Report, doing so takes the focus from
whatever other program I'm in. Eudora comes to the fore, and my
program is hidden.
Is this also true of version 6?
If so, that would be an incentive to move to version 6.
I've paid for version 6, but I still haven't figured out how to
retrieve new headers for just one newsgroup. It has the option of
one desk and one something else, but I keep dl'ing for every ng I've
extracted from the list of all ngs, or at least most of them. I guess
that is a separate question. :) How do I get headers for just one
ng in version 6!

I wonder what program you are writing about:

o Version 1.9?

o Newsgroup headers?

o What's a "desk"?

"Classic" Eudora (e.g. version 6.2.5.6, 7.1.0.9)
should not steal focus when its application window is "minimized."

"Paid" reg codes for _all_ versions of Eudora
have been posted numerous times in this newsgroup
(the vendor having stopped accepting money about four years ago).

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[mm]

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:47:29 -0600, John H Meyers

Post by John H Meyers

Post by mm
When version 1.9 finds mail that goes in any mailbox but the inbox, if
it is set to display a Filter Report, doing so takes the focus from
whatever other program I'm in. Eudora comes to the fore, and my
program is hidden.
Is this also true of version 6?
If so, that would be an incentive to move to version 6.
I've paid for version 6, but I still haven't figured out how to
retrieve new headers for just one newsgroup. It has the option of
one desk and one something else, but I keep dl'ing for every ng I've
extracted from the list of all ngs, or at least most of them. I guess
that is a separate question. :) How do I get headers for just one
ng in version 6!

o Version 1.9?
o Newsgroup headers?
o What's a "desk"?

Darn. I thought I had an insight in the middle of writing the
question, that I should move to the latest version. But I have the
latest version of Eudora. It's Agent where I'm still using a 10-year
old version, (because I like it better including for the reason
mentioned.)

Senior moment. Sorry about that.

Post by John H Meyers
"Classic" Eudora (e.g. version 6.2.5.6, 7.1.0.9)

I'm using the latest version of Eudora, 7.1 something.

Post by John H Meyers
should not steal focus when its application window is "minimized."

Oh.

Is minimized the same thing as having another window that totally
covers the Eudora window? I almost never minimize anything, I just
switch to another program with alt-tab, and I run all my programs
maximized. I've always thought that when I can't see them at all,
they are minimized. It's never seemed to matter before if this is
true or not.

Post by John H Meyers
"Paid" reg codes for _all_ versions of Eudora
have been posted numerous times in this newsgroup
(the vendor having stopped accepting money about four years ago).

Yeah, I'm up to date on that. Thanks a lot.

[mm]

Post by mm
Is minimized the same thing as having another window that totally
covers the Eudora window? I almost never minimize anything, I just
switch to another program with alt-tab, and I run all my programs
maximized. I've always thought that when I can't see them at all,
they are minimized. It's never seemed to matter before if this is
true or not.

To answer my own question, No. I checked Minimize to the System
Tray, and then minimized, and the rectangle in the task bar
disappeared and an icon appeared in the Systray.

Then I brought it up again and just alt-tabbed to another program,
and neither of those things happened.

So I guess I'll have to get in the habit of minimizing Eudora.

I've never done it this way before, yet I don't remember this being a
problem until the last couple years. Any chance the behaviour has
changed somewhere along the line?

Thanks again for filling me in.

[Steven Saunderson]

Post by mm
I've never done it this way before, yet I don't remember this being a
problem until the last couple years. Any chance the behaviour has
changed somewhere along the line?

I think it's been like this for a long time. I reset the Getting
Attention -> Open mailbox option and this stops the problem.

Cheers,

[mm]

Post by Steven Saunderson

Post by mm
I've never done it this way before, yet I don't remember this being a
problem until the last couple years. Any chance the behaviour has
changed somewhere along the line?

I think it's been like this for a long time. I reset the Getting
Attention -> Open mailbox option and this stops the problem.
Cheers,

It's been 15 years and I can't remember which position is set and what
is reset. :-) Do you mean you have the box unchecked?

Did you already have Generate fillter report unchecked, maybe?

I have had Open Mailbox unchecked for years, because as I got more
mailboxes, it wasn't fun anymore, but I had to also uncheck Generate
Filter Report to stop the focus problem, and I really like that
report. BTW, I didn't notice at first that I can click on the
mailboxes listed there.

(FTR, at the beginning there was one line for every set of emails in a
row that went to the same mailbox. Later this was changed to one line
for every set of emails in a group of emails, where a group is defined
as the set of emails before it checks them for viruses and filters
them, and one other thing (in which order I forget).)

Also, for quite a while if I don't have my hand on the mouse, I've
used alt-space-X to maximize windows. Alt-space-N will minimize. I
just have to learn to use it.

[Steven Saunderson]

Post by mm
Did you already have Generate fillter report unchecked, maybe?
I have had Open Mailbox unchecked for years, because as I got more
mailboxes, it wasn't fun anymore, but I had to also uncheck Generate
Filter Report to stop the focus problem, and I really like that
report.

Yes, I have both unchecked. I use the icon in the system tray to advise
of incoming mail. Thanks for the tip about Generate Report also
grabbing focus.

Cheers,

[John H Meyers]

Post by mm
Is minimized the same thing as having another window
that totally covers the Eudora window?

No, it's when you click the "minimize" (leftmost) window control button
at the top right of an application window, whose icon may look like
an "underscore," after which the application window
is no longer visible at all, even it it's the only application running,
but its Taskbar icon remains on the Windows Taskbar.

"Minimize to system tray" goes one step further,
even removing the Taskbar button,
to be replaced by a "system tray" icon,
but this is not necessary -- the simplest "minimizing"
(making the application window disappear) is sufficient.

Another way to minimize most applications, in XP, for example,
is to click again on the "depressed" Taskbar button
of an application that has focus.

Right-clicking Taskbar buttons (with Shift on Windows 7)
should also bring up a menu for adjusting the window,
and various other methods also exist,
but as this newsgroup isn't devoted to Microsoft Windows,
perhaps that's enough about the subject.

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[mm]

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:05:27 -0600, John H Meyers

Post by John H Meyers

Post by mm
Is minimized the same thing as having another window
that totally covers the Eudora window?

No, it's when you click the "minimize" (leftmost) window control button
at the top right of an application window, whose icon may look like
an "underscore," after which the application window
is no longer visible at all, even it it's the only application running,
but its Taskbar icon remains on the Windows Taskbar.
"Minimize to system tray" goes one step further,
even removing the Taskbar button,
to be replaced by a "system tray" icon,
but this is not necessary -- the simplest "minimizing"
(making the application window disappear) is sufficient.
Another way to minimize most applications, in XP, for example,
is to click again on the "depressed" Taskbar button
of an application that has focus.

Wow. This is a big help. Of course I have clicked on depressed
buttons but I didn't realize what that did, because it looks the same
as what alt-tab gives.

I see now that I could have deduced it, because right-clicking on a
depressed button only gives three choices, close, restore, and
minimize, and plainly left-clicking wasn't doing the first two. But I
am not observant enough to have noticed that.

Post by John H Meyers
Right-clicking Taskbar buttons (with Shift on Windows 7)
should also bring up a menu for adjusting the window,
and various other methods also exist,
but as this newsgroup isn't devoted to Microsoft Windows,
perhaps that's enough about the subject.

Yet less would have been too little.

Because in the last couple days I've become pretty sure I would never
get in the habit of directly mimimizing with the upper right
underscore box or alt-space-N. But clicking on the tab I might very
well do. I guess because it's a bigger target.

[John H Meyers]

On 2/05/2011 11:20 AM, mm wrote:

[after learning that minimized Eudora won't steal focus]

Post by mm

Post by John H Meyers
Another way to minimize most applications, in XP, for example,
is to click again on the "depressed" Taskbar button
of an application that has focus.

This is a big help.

Might WindowsKey+M ("minimize all") also be useful to you?

Note that WindowsKey+D ("show desktop") is not the same thing.

"Windows Key Shortcuts"
http://www.seoconsultants.com/windows/key/

"Microsoft Windows shortcut keys"
http://www.computerhope.com/shortcut/windows.htm

"Keyboard shortcuts for Windows"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449

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[micky]

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