Post by ef91. I installed Eudora on 11/8 and have been using it mostly without problems... with the exception of two times when the system woke from sleep with Eudora running minimized and corrupted In.toc (on 11/12) and Out.toc (on 11/20). My inbox wasn't too big, so I just went through and manually marked messages as read/replied/forwarded, thinking that would rebuild the corrupted In.toc file. Everything seemed fine until today, when I had another hang on wake from sleep and it was the Out box's turn. Trouble is, you can't manually change the status of messages in the Outbox, so now all my sent messages appear with red X's next to them, as if they were unsendable.
Are we talking simple "sleep", or full "hibernate"? {blank screen,
reduce CPU clock vs save memory image to disk and stop all CPU activity}.
I've never been able to get my systems to wake up from hibernation, so have
no idea what Eudora behavior would be.
However, let me state that I don't leave stuff in "outbox" -- I have
filters rigged that always move mail, when it is sent, to a "sent" (or
other) box. The only stuff ever left in "outbox" is draft or queued to be
sent.
In/Out (Junk&Trash?) are mailboxes that keep their TOC in memory at all
times that Eudora is running. Hence easy to corrupt if anything affects
memory before the contents can be flushed (on shutdown of Eudora). Other
(user defined) mailboxes flush the TOC on all activity.
Post by ef92. My .mbx files don't seem to be updating at all. They all have "last modified" times from 11/8, the day I set up Eudora on the Win10 machine... despite the fact that I have sent and received hundreds of emails since then. I have no idea where my mail is going!
"Help"/"About Eudora" displays the paths to the user data files -- does
it match where you are looking?
Post by ef93. Mailboxes that I have created since 11/8 are accessible from within Eudora, but otherwise it is as if they do not exist. I cannot find corresponding .mbx and .toc files anywhere on my hard drive (and Search can't find them either). So again, no idea what's happening to my mail.
The normal location is one of M$s "hidden" directories. I don't know if
Win10 changed how one controls viewing of hidden directories but you likely
need to set your system to show "hidden" and "system" files (and while at
it, turn on showing "known file extensions" -- hiding those is the biggest
way trojans were passed: trojan.jpg.exe would display as trojan.jpg to lure
folks into "displaying the image" when it was really a program that would
be run). Find the (now shown) hidden user data directory, change its
properties to not be hidden. You can then reset the hidden/system files
flags if you don't want to see all those.
Post by ef9I confess that the problems may be entirely my fault: I installed Eudora with both the Data and the Program folders set to C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora. I had not read this thread and didn't
That is it, completely.
Win7 and later protect the program files directories from user
modification (even an admin account has to confirm).
M$, in the attempt to ease the concept, created shadow directories for
user data changes in protected system locations. But those shadow
directories tend to get wiped out under odd circumstances, and are
difficult to find.
Post by ef9realize that could be a problem. I also installed the program first and copied my files into the data folder second (.ini file, .mbx files, .toc files, etc.), albeit without starting Eudora until after I'd completed the transfer. Again, this was because I hadn't see the recommendation to do things in the other order (and because I had never had trouble with Eudora migrations onto a new system before).
Even WinXP could give problems -- but it was the first version to
attempt to protect Program Files, which meant it was easy to circumvent the
protection.
According to my Win7 Inside/Out book, the "virtual store" is in
%LocalAppData%\VirtualStore
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C:\Users\Wulfraed\Documents>echo %localappdata%
C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Local
C:\Users\Wulfraed\Documents>
That's one of those normally hidden directories.
Recommendation:
First make the hiddens visible, then save off your files from the
"virtual store" to some place safe.
Uninstall and purge Program Files of Eudora.
Reinstall Eudora -- there should be no user data in Program Files.
Start it, check the help/about screen to find out where it says the
data files are... They should be under your account's roaming profile.
Shutdown Eudora, navigate to the data location (may be hidden), copy your
saved files into that area.
Edit the INI file(s) so that any old paths inside are changed to point
to the new location.
Start Eudora and confirm the settings were taken.
Post by ef9Can anyone advise? Ideally, I'd like to back up my files, uninstall, and reinstall from scratch. Many thanks!!
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