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Thunderbird vs Eudora?
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Frank
2007-06-17 11:16:28 UTC
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Wondering how Mozilla Thunderbird and Eudora compare. I have both: a
paid version of Eudora 6.1 and Thunderbird 2 which is free. Have new
Vista OS and while Eudora is working OK it has minor problems. When I
downloaded Thunderbird it took in all my Eudora mailboxes and messages
but I have not switched to it and thought I would ask advice of those
that have.
Frank
bsts
2007-06-17 14:06:46 UTC
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Post by Frank
Wondering how Mozilla Thunderbird and Eudora compare. I have both: a
paid version of Eudora 6.1 and Thunderbird 2 which is free. Have new
Vista OS and while Eudora is working OK it has minor problems. When I
downloaded Thunderbird it took in all my Eudora mailboxes and messages
but I have not switched to it and thought I would ask advice of those
that have.
Frank
I truly despise the Thunderbird interface so I am looking to Penelope
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope> to eventually give me a Eudora look
<http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showthread.php?t=10979>.However, the
filtering
and general email handling is great. Thunderbird has all the tools if
you want them (think extensions & add-ons just like Firefox) but works
well right out of the box.

Good luck!
Frank
2007-06-17 15:51:13 UTC
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Post by bsts
Post by Frank
Wondering how Mozilla Thunderbird and Eudora compare. I have both: a
paid version of Eudora 6.1 and Thunderbird 2 which is free. Have new
Vista OS and while Eudora is working OK it has minor problems. When I
downloaded Thunderbird it took in all my Eudora mailboxes and messages
but I have not switched to it and thought I would ask advice of those
that have.
Frank
I truly despise the Thunderbird interface so I am looking to Penelope
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope> to eventually give me a Eudora look
<http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showthread.php?t=10979>.However, the
filtering
and general email handling is great. Thunderbird has all the tools if
you want them (think extensions & add-ons just like Firefox) but works
well right out of the box.
Good luck!
Thanks. Looks fairly similar to me. My wife, OTOH, is extremely
resistant to change. She won't even let me load my Eudora 6.1 over
her old Eudora on her machine.
Frank
Tim Green
2007-06-17 22:04:09 UTC
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Post by Frank
Wondering how Mozilla Thunderbird and Eudora compare. I have both: a
paid version of Eudora 6.1 and Thunderbird 2 which is free.
...

I am a long-time Eudora user and I tried Thunderbird some time ago. The
interface wasn't too unpalatable but I did find one thing terminally
frustrating.

In Eudora, I have things set up so I compose a message and queue it. It
doesn't get sent until I am ready. This has saved my bacon a number of
times, as I sometimes go back a check/change messages before I actually
send them.

In Thunderbird, if I remember correctly, there was an "online" mode (where
messages were sent as soon as composing finished) and an "offline" mode
(similar to my preferred mode in Eudora). Thunderbird kept going into
online mode whenever I sent messages and wouldn't default to offline. I
had to go to some third party site to download the right buttons and
plugins to make it do almost what I wanted, but I could never find a way
to make it stay in offline mode.

Anyone know if things have changed recently in this regard?
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Big Bill
2007-06-17 18:48:13 UTC
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:06:46 -0700, bsts
Post by bsts
Post by Frank
Wondering how Mozilla Thunderbird and Eudora compare. I have both: a
paid version of Eudora 6.1 and Thunderbird 2 which is free. Have new
Vista OS and while Eudora is working OK it has minor problems. When I
downloaded Thunderbird it took in all my Eudora mailboxes and messages
but I have not switched to it and thought I would ask advice of those
that have.
Frank
I truly despise the Thunderbird interface so I am looking to Penelope
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope>
How goes Penelope?

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Toby
2007-06-21 15:21:08 UTC
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Post by Big Bill
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:06:46 -0700, bsts
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Post by bsts
I truly despise the Thunderbird interface so I am looking to Penelope
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope>
How goes Penelope?
Tried Penelope a few weeks back. The interface was Eudora-ish enough for
me. But - and it is a big one - it stores all mail in a large, unreadable
mail file (like Outlook and .PST files). As Eudora's simple text-based
files have allowed me to recover mail from damaged files on a number of
occasions, I'm sticking with it.

Toby
John H Meyers
2007-06-21 19:16:21 UTC
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Post by Toby
Tried Penelope a few weeks back. The interface was Eudora-ish enough
for me. But - and it is a big one - it stores all mail in a large,
unreadable mail file (like Outlook and .PST files).
This is very un-Thunderbird like; TB (v1) uses individual readable files,
much like Eudora, so I wonder how such a radical change arose?
Post by Toby
As Eudora's simple text-based files
have allowed me to recover mail from damaged files
on a number of occasions, I'm sticking with it.
Eudora's simplicity
(and the easy maintainability and flexibility this creates)
is indeed often a life-saver, but its virtues
don't become apparent until one looks under the hood,
which most users probably never do.

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Toby
2007-06-22 16:21:08 UTC
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Post by John H Meyers
Post by Toby
Tried Penelope a few weeks back. The interface was Eudora-ish enough
for me. But - and it is a big one - it stores all mail in a large,
unreadable mail file (like Outlook and .PST files).
This is very un-Thunderbird like; TB (v1) uses individual readable files,
much like Eudora, so I wonder how such a radical change arose?
Ooops! My mistake.

TB does have separate files for mail folders (like Eudora) but it stores
attachments inside them, in MIME format, (like Outlook). That is what I
meant - and why I am not using Penelope.
Post by John H Meyers
Eudora's simplicity
(and the easy maintainability and flexibility this creates)
is indeed often a life-saver, but its virtues
don't become apparent until one looks under the hood,
which most users probably never do.
Agreed.

Toby
John H Meyers
2007-06-22 17:46:02 UTC
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Dennis Lee Bieber
2007-06-23 04:58:01 UTC
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:21:08 GMT, Toby
Post by Toby
TB does have separate files for mail folders (like Eudora) but it stores
attachments inside them, in MIME format, (like Outlook). That is what I
meant - and why I am not using Penelope.
Well, that's probably how the mail actually was transmitted...
Sounds like Thunderbird is using normal (UNIX) mailbox format.
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Big Bill
2007-06-23 07:29:18 UTC
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:21:08 GMT, Toby
Post by Toby
Post by Big Bill
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:06:46 -0700, bsts
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Post by bsts
I truly despise the Thunderbird interface so I am looking to Penelope
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope>
How goes Penelope?
Tried Penelope a few weeks back. The interface was Eudora-ish enough for
me. But - and it is a big one - it stores all mail in a large, unreadable
mail file (like Outlook and .PST files). As Eudora's simple text-based
files have allowed me to recover mail from damaged files on a number of
occasions, I'm sticking with it.
Toby
Where is Penelope these days? I didn't realise there was a tryable
version.

BB
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Toby
2007-06-24 05:29:04 UTC
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Post by Big Bill
Where is Penelope these days? I didn't realise there was a tryable
version.
Try here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4772

There's also a wiki where it is discussed:

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope

Toby
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