gmail problem. help please!

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Hi, I have just created a new gmail.com account.
I have even other gmail.com accounts and all work fine with Eudora
7.1, but the new account doesn't work.
I don't know the reason, also because it is configured like the other
gmail accounts.
I also ran the security check.
I enabled POP but I get ERROR with Eudora.
I use Eudora with HermSSL installed
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This email address is important for me.
I thank you for your info.

[[e-mail]]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Hi, I have just created a new gmail.com account.
I have even other gmail.com accounts and all work fine with Eudora
7.1, but the new account doesn't work.
I don't know the reason, also because it is configured like the other
gmail accounts.
I also ran the security check.
I enabled POP but I get ERROR with Eudora.
I use Eudora with HermSSL installed
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hjg55izau1evuvy/Eudora%20problem.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bu0s3z7o5fcotjx/Eudora%20problem%202.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0wyjswbbze02tv/Eudora%20problem%203.JPG?dl=0
This email address is important for me.
I thank you for your info.

I can't read other than the first image, but that one is pretty clear. Can you verify the user name and password on the gmail account is entered correctly? That's what the error message is saying.

I had a problem with a new hosting provider where Eudora reported something obtuse. Turned out it was a typo in the password or user name, I forget which.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by ***@gmail.com
I can't read other than the first image, but that one is pretty clear. Can you verify the user name and password on the gmail account is entered correctly? That's what the error message is saying.

I'm sorry for it. I see those links well. They are OK.

Post by ***@gmail.com
I had a problem with a new hosting provider where Eudora reported something obtuse. Turned out it was a typo in the password or user name, I forget which.

Yes, the Eudora message is clear but, it doesn't work.
I went to the web, logged out the account and then logged back in, and
everything works fine on the web.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Yes, the Eudora message is clear but, it doesn't work.
I went to the web, logged out the account and then logged back in, and
everything works fine on the web.

Have you enabled the "lesser security" mode for GMAIL on that account.
Which may include generating a password specific to Eudora access.

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Have you enabled the "lesser security" mode for GMAIL on that account.

WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, wonderful suggestion.
Now Eudora works fine.
THAKS THANKS THANKS

[Mutlley]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Have you enabled the "lesser security" mode for GMAIL on that account.

WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, wonderful suggestion.
Now Eudora works fine.
THAKS THANKS THANKS

Funny thing is that this fix is also the solution for the problem for
sending emails on MS Outlook as well..

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Hey friends,
I have also another problema with yahoo.com.
I have 3 accounts with yahoo.com and the worked fine with Eudora.
2 days ago Eudora have stopped working with yhaoo.com and it is
impossible to download mails. Whenever I try to download mail, Eudora
asks me for my password, but it doesn't download anything. It is very
strange. I also logged into my account web and everything looks OK,
even if I haven't seen any options to be able to configure my account
like it happens with gmail.com.
Anyone know why this problem?
Anyone use yahoo.com?
Thank you.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Hey friends,
I have also another problema with yahoo.com.
I have 3 accounts with yahoo.com and the worked fine with Eudora.
2 days ago Eudora have stopped working with yhaoo.com and it is
impossible to download mails. Whenever I try to download mail, Eudora
asks me for my password, but it doesn't download anything. It is very
strange. I also logged into my account web and everything looks OK,
even if I haven't seen any options to be able to configure my account
like it happens with gmail.com.
Anyone know why this problem?
Anyone use yahoo.com?
Thank you.

Maybe yahoo have started to require the same "enhanced security" that
gmail prefer; if so, if you're lucky, there will be a setting _in their
webmail interface_ you can change to allow it - if you're not, you'll
need to add something to Eudora.

If this was already the situation, check that setting: there's some
evidence that gmail change that setting back sometimes, so maybe yahoo
do too.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

I don't see any option on yahoo website. In your opinion have I delete
my accounts?

[g***@rr.com]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Hey friends,
I have also another problema with yahoo.com.
I have 3 accounts with yahoo.com and the worked fine with Eudora.
2 days ago Eudora have stopped working with yhaoo.com and it is
impossible to download mails. Whenever I try to download mail, Eudora
asks me for my password, but it doesn't download anything. It is very
strange. I also logged into my account web and everything looks OK,
even if I haven't seen any options to be able to configure my account
like it happens with gmail.com.
Anyone know why this problem?
Anyone use yahoo.com?
Thank you.

I had the same problem that Yahoo password quit working on 1 phone
mail program and one Tablet mail program the same exact day. I was not
using Yahoo App on either of these device

On one other newer Samsung tablet the default mail program still
works. Also the same password works on 2 different computers using
either Chrome or Firefox so I know it is not a password problem.

Yahoo has made some type of change to their servers requirement.

As soon as I installed the Yahoo App the same password on both
devices.

I remember back in Feb 2020 ATT posted the following notice about
changes to their mail program. I also vaguely remember something to
the affect that one of the other mail servers said that if you removed
your account and then add it back, it would allow it to keep working.
I did not try this. I really don't like the Yahoo mail App interface.
It allows them to push more ads to your devices.



https://www.att.com/support/article/email-support/KM1240308

[g***@rr.com]

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/upcoming-yahoo-mail-change-for-third-party-email.431965/

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/new-mail-for-desktop/SLN27791.html?impressions=true

The above seems to address the changes in Yahoo email. I knew I had
read this somewhere but just now refound it. I captured just the part
about using Thunderbird but I would this this would be similiar to
Agent?

Access mail via Thunderbird
Remove your Yahoo account and set it up again in the Thunderbird email
client.

Go to Tools | Account Settings.
Select your account in the list.
Go to Account Actions at the bottom left.
Click Remove Accounts.
Click Add Accounts and type in the email address and password.
- Thunderbird will then automatically activate the secure sign-in
method for your account.
Read more on removing and re-adding accounts in Thunderbird.

Post by g***@rr.com

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Hey friends,
I have also another problema with yahoo.com.
I have 3 accounts with yahoo.com and the worked fine with Eudora.
2 days ago Eudora have stopped working with yhaoo.com and it is
impossible to download mails. Whenever I try to download mail, Eudora
asks me for my password, but it doesn't download anything. It is very
strange. I also logged into my account web and everything looks OK,
even if I haven't seen any options to be able to configure my account
like it happens with gmail.com.
Anyone know why this problem?
Anyone use yahoo.com?
Thank you.

I had the same problem that Yahoo password quit working on 1 phone
mail program and one Tablet mail program the same exact day. I was not
using Yahoo App on either of these device
On one other newer Samsung tablet the default mail program still
works. Also the same password works on 2 different computers using
either Chrome or Firefox so I know it is not a password problem.
Yahoo has made some type of change to their servers requirement.
As soon as I installed the Yahoo App the same password on both
devices.
I remember back in Feb 2020 ATT posted the following notice about
changes to their mail program. I also vaguely remember something to
the affect that one of the other mail servers said that if you removed
your account and then add it back, it would allow it to keep working.
I did not try this. I really don't like the Yahoo mail App interface.
It allows them to push more ads to your devices.
https://www.att.com/support/article/email-support/KM1240308

[g***@rr.com]

Post by g***@rr.com
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/upcoming-yahoo-mail-change-for-third-party-email.431965/
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/new-mail-for-desktop/SLN27791.html?impressions=true

From the above web page:

Generate and manage third-party app passwords

Some older, third-party email apps

(that do not use our Yahoo branded sign in page) require you to enter
a single password for login credentials. To access your Yahoo Mail
account on these apps, you'll need to generate and use an app
password. An app password is a long, randomly generated code that
gives a non-Yahoo app permission to access your Yahoo account. You’ll
only need to provide this code once to sign in to your third-party
email app.

Post by g***@rr.com
The above seems to address the changes in Yahoo email. I knew I had
read this somewhere but just now refound it. I captured just the part
about using Thunderbird but I would this this would be similiar to
Agent?
Access mail via Thunderbird
Remove your Yahoo account and set it up again in the Thunderbird email
client.
Go to Tools | Account Settings.
Select your account in the list.
Go to Account Actions at the bottom left.
Click Remove Accounts.
Click Add Accounts and type in the email address and password.
- Thunderbird will then automatically activate the secure sign-in
method for your account.
Read more on removing and re-adding accounts in Thunderbird.

Post by g***@rr.com

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Hey friends,
I have also another problema with yahoo.com.
I have 3 accounts with yahoo.com and the worked fine with Eudora.
2 days ago Eudora have stopped working with yhaoo.com and it is
impossible to download mails. Whenever I try to download mail, Eudora
asks me for my password, but it doesn't download anything. It is very
strange. I also logged into my account web and everything looks OK,
even if I haven't seen any options to be able to configure my account
like it happens with gmail.com.
Anyone know why this problem?
Anyone use yahoo.com?
Thank you.

I had the same problem that Yahoo password quit working on 1 phone
mail program and one Tablet mail program the same exact day. I was not
using Yahoo App on either of these device
On one other newer Samsung tablet the default mail program still
works. Also the same password works on 2 different computers using
either Chrome or Firefox so I know it is not a password problem.
Yahoo has made some type of change to their servers requirement.
As soon as I installed the Yahoo App the same password on both
devices.
I remember back in Feb 2020 ATT posted the following notice about
changes to their mail program. I also vaguely remember something to
the affect that one of the other mail servers said that if you removed
your account and then add it back, it would allow it to keep working.
I did not try this. I really don't like the Yahoo mail App interface.
It allows them to push more ads to your devices.
https://www.att.com/support/article/email-support/KM1240308

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by g***@rr.com
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/upcoming-yahoo-mail-change-for-third-party-email.431965/
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/new-mail-for-desktop/SLN27791.html?impressions=true

Appears I didn't dig far enough when googling Yahoo settings... <G>

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Good news, thank you.
Can I ask a stupid question? Isn't it easier to set up Eudora with
IMAP instead of POP3?
Maybe it can't be done?

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by g***@rr.com
- Thunderbird will then automatically activate the secure sign-in
method for your account.

That implies Thunderbird has a function for automatically looking up
and configuring mail servers.

Real Eudora does NOT have that function. You must manually set it to
the correct values.

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/pop-access-settings-instructions-yahoo-mail-sln4724.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAF954J5QOaGqqvUN1yxNHfdXmbGku1a8a2N_80p4WNrbnG1XhLGmFj3OBzWvALDYBxEJksUYirO2qpFDv43Cigbz2bLa-aHnrBq8XMrFecno7u0NALqZ9h2Wqts6Qv3MBAMjiW92FCy7Fux2n0FsnwwpSd1w__hZfF4JlyPbK0il

[i***@jejejeje.it]

I tried to deleted the account and the I tried to create it again with
Thunderbird. If I cose POP3, Thunderbird was not able to crate that
account again, but when I chose IMAP, it was created in some seconds.
What can I do with Eudora, please?

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
I tried to deleted the account and the I tried to create it again with
Thunderbird. If I cose POP3, Thunderbird was not able to crate that
account again, but when I chose IMAP, it was created in some seconds.
What can I do with Eudora, please?

Same thing... presuming you are running a version of Eudora that has
IMAP capability.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Same thing... presuming you are running a version of Eudora that has
IMAP capability.

Yes, I have Eudora 7.1 and I have to option to configure it with IMAP,
but I don't know how I can configure it.
If Thunderbid is able to download yahoo emails, do you think even
Eudora 7.1 is able to download yahoo emails?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 19:41:03, Dennis Lee Bieber

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber

Post by g***@rr.com
- Thunderbird will then automatically activate the secure sign-in
method for your account.

That implies Thunderbird has a function for automatically looking up
and configuring mail servers.
Real Eudora does NOT have that function. You must manually set it to
the correct values.

[]
I don't think TB has an _automatic_ way of _looking up_ server details;
however, it has the details for many common ISPs built into it. (These
of course go out of date; if you use an older version of TB and the ISP
has changed their server details - names _or_ protocols - you'll have to
set them up manually and _not_ accept what it suggests.)

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by g***@rr.com
Access mail via Thunderbird
Remove your Yahoo account and set it up again in the Thunderbird email
client.

I like to understand better.
Do I habve to remove my account only on Thunderbird? Therefore I have
to leave my account on yahoo web page. OK?

[g***@rr.com]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it

Post by g***@rr.com
Access mail via Thunderbird
Remove your Yahoo account and set it up again in the Thunderbird email
client.

I like to understand better.
Do I habve to remove my account only on Thunderbird? Therefore I have
to leave my account on yahoo web page. OK?

You should not remove your email account from Yahoo web page. That is
not the problem.

The problem is Yahoo and several other email suppliers are increasing
their security and changing the protocols they feel are necessary to
try and stop hacking of email accounts.

I have never tried to use Yahoo with Eudora so I don't know anything
about that issue.

[g***@rr.com]

Post by g***@rr.com
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/upcoming-yahoo-mail-change-for-third-party-email.431965/
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/new-mail-for-desktop/SLN27791.html?impressions=true
The above seems to address the changes in Yahoo email. I knew I had
read this somewhere but just now refound it. I captured just the part
about using Thunderbird but I would this this would be similiar to
Agent?
Access mail via Thunderbird
Remove your Yahoo account and set it up again in the Thunderbird email
client.
Go to Tools | Account Settings.
Select your account in the list.
Go to Account Actions at the bottom left.
Click Remove Accounts.
Click Add Accounts and type in the email address and password.
- Thunderbird will then automatically activate the secure sign-in
method for your account.
Read more on removing and re-adding accounts in Thunderbird.

Post by g***@rr.com

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Hey friends,
I have also another problema with yahoo.com.
I have 3 accounts with yahoo.com and the worked fine with Eudora.
2 days ago Eudora have stopped working with yhaoo.com and it is
impossible to download mails. Whenever I try to download mail, Eudora
asks me for my password, but it doesn't download anything. It is very
strange. I also logged into my account web and everything looks OK,
even if I haven't seen any options to be able to configure my account
like it happens with gmail.com.
Anyone know why this problem?
Anyone use yahoo.com?
Thank you.

I had the same problem that Yahoo password quit working on 1 phone
mail program and one Tablet mail program the same exact day. I was not
using Yahoo App on either of these device
On one other newer Samsung tablet the default mail program still
works. Also the same password works on 2 different computers using
either Chrome or Firefox so I know it is not a password problem.
Yahoo has made some type of change to their servers requirement.
As soon as I installed the Yahoo App the same password on both
devices.
I remember back in Feb 2020 ATT posted the following notice about
changes to their mail program. I also vaguely remember something to
the affect that one of the other mail servers said that if you removed
your account and then add it back, it would allow it to keep working.
I did not try this. I really don't like the Yahoo mail App interface.
It allows them to push more ads to your devices.
https://www.att.com/support/article/email-support/KM1240308

For people who use the Web based Yahoo mail you might consider this
tip. I use this for my wife's email since she uses Firefox and the web
based interface. She no longer gets the ad on the side in her email.
It has worked for a year so far.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/yahoomailhideadpanel/

One thing I notice when the LG V20 mail App quit working with Yahoo
mail. When I installed the Yahoo App, my wife now gets Ads in the
middle of her emails. The LG and Samsung mail Apps some way prevented
these Ads from appearing. My wife said she could live with the few ads
since she mainly reads Yahoo mail on the computer's 28" monitor which
is much better than the small smartphone screen....

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by g***@rr.com
One thing I notice when the LG V20 mail App quit working with Yahoo
mail. When I installed the Yahoo App, my wife now gets Ads in the
middle of her emails. The LG and Samsung mail Apps some way prevented
these Ads from appearing. My wife said she could live with the few ads
since she mainly reads Yahoo mail on the computer's 28" monitor which
is much better than the small smartphone screen....

I'm sorry but I use ONLY Eudora 7.1.
I think I have to abandon POP3 end I have to use yahoo.com with IMAP.
Does anybody know how can I configure Eudora wirh yahoo and IMAP?

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
I'm sorry but I use ONLY Eudora 7.1.
I think I have to abandon POP3 end I have to use yahoo.com with IMAP.
Does anybody know how can I configure Eudora wirh yahoo and IMAP?

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN4075.html

Though you may still need to go through some extra steps to set up
"less secure" app-specific password.

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/generate-manage-third-party-passwords-sln15241.html

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN4075.html
Though you may still need to go through some extra steps to set up
"less secure" app-specific password.
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/generate-manage-third-party-passwords-sln15241.html

I don't know how to thank you for your kindness and availability.
Unfortunately I did not understand well because in addition to being
inexperienced, my English is not good.
But now I understand everything and have solved my problems.
One last question: since the passords that yahoo created for me are
strange, could I replace them with other personal passwords?
THANK YOU!

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
But now I understand everything and have solved my problems.
One last question: since the passords that yahoo created for me are
strange, could I replace them with other personal passwords?
THANK YOU!

I wouldn't try. The whole idea behind those "app specific" passwords is
that they are customized for each application you use to connect, rather
than being something that might be used in multiple places.

[DaveH2]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN4075.html
Though you may still need to go through some extra steps to set up
"less secure" app-specific password.
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/generate-manage-third-party-passwords-sln15241.html

I don't know how to thank you for your kindness and availability.
Unfortunately I did not understand well because in addition to being
inexperienced, my English is not good.
But now I understand everything and have solved my problems.
One last question: since the passords that yahoo created for me are
strange, could I replace them with other personal passwords?
THANK YOU!

No, the application specific passwords generated by Yahoo are exactly that, and cannot be changed.

[liz]

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber

Yes, the Eudora message is clear but, it doesn't work. I went to
the web, logged out the account and then logged back in, and
everything works fine on the web.

Have you enabled the "lesser security" mode for GMAIL on that
account. Which may include generating a password specific to
Eudora access.
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en

I believe that since June 2020, Google's G Suite no longer permits
"less secure" apps to download email.

Are there any plans to apply this at some time to ordinary Gmail?