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eudora is unable to update the system registry
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p***@emmet.com
2010-06-10 06:03:46 UTC
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recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.

any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....

steve
Alan Edwards
2010-06-10 19:54:29 UTC
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I had that message a long time ago in Vista and fixed it.
Not sure but I may have used this?

How to Set Eudora as the Default Mail Program on Vista
Document ID: 2756HQ
http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2756hq.html

...Alan

On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:03:46 -0700, in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows,
Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
p***@emmet.com
2010-06-11 05:28:00 UTC
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i'm running windows 7 and having read another note on the net i
*turned off* , de-checked the box that said 'warn me if eudora is not
the default mailer' and so far that seems to have worked :-) ...

steve

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:54:29 GMT, Alan Edwards
Post by Alan Edwards
I had that message a long time ago in Vista and fixed it.
Not sure but I may have used this?
How to Set Eudora as the Default Mail Program on Vista
Document ID: 2756HQ
http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2756hq.html
...Alan
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:03:46 -0700, in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows,
Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
Han
2010-06-11 10:19:50 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
i'm running windows 7 and having read another note on the net i
*turned off* , de-checked the box that said 'warn me if eudora is not
the default mailer' and so far that seems to have worked :-) ...
steve
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:54:29 GMT, Alan Edwards
Post by Alan Edwards
I had that message a long time ago in Vista and fixed it.
Not sure but I may have used this?
How to Set Eudora as the Default Mail Program on Vista
Document ID: 2756HQ
http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2756hq.html
...Alan
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:03:46 -0700, in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows,
Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
I had a crash. I copied the Eudora folder from a bac kup. Eudora would
indeed start without installing, but then gave the message the OP
mentioned. Installing Eudora 7.1.0.9 over this copied set of files and
folders got rid of the OP's message.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
p***@emmet.com
2010-06-12 05:56:27 UTC
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i can try re-installing it ... thanks ...

steve
Post by Han
Post by p***@emmet.com
i'm running windows 7 and having read another note on the net i
*turned off* , de-checked the box that said 'warn me if eudora is not
the default mailer' and so far that seems to have worked :-) ...
steve
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:54:29 GMT, Alan Edwards
Post by Alan Edwards
I had that message a long time ago in Vista and fixed it.
Not sure but I may have used this?
How to Set Eudora as the Default Mail Program on Vista
Document ID: 2756HQ
http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2756hq.html
...Alan
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:03:46 -0700, in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows,
Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
I had a crash. I copied the Eudora folder from a bac kup. Eudora would
indeed start without installing, but then gave the message the OP
mentioned. Installing Eudora 7.1.0.9 over this copied set of files and
folders got rid of the OP's message.
r***@gmail.com
2014-02-21 13:54:35 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
I was also having this problem. I saw another post that recommended a fix so I tried it:

- Right click the Eudora 7.1.0.9 icon on your Win7 desktop
- Click "Run As Administrator"
- A new instance of the client will open. Enter your registration code in Help, Payment & Registration.
- Close the client
- The next time I opened the client, the message was gone.

Worked for me!
e***@gmail.com
2017-01-07 14:56:59 UTC
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Post by r***@gmail.com
Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
- Right click the Eudora 7.1.0.9 icon on your Win7 desktop
- Click "Run As Administrator"
- A new instance of the client will open. Enter your registration code in Help, Payment & Registration.
- Close the client
- The next time I opened the client, the message was gone.
Worked for me!
Wow - I decided to try this. The fix you suggested worked! Thank you!
v***@hotmail.com
2017-12-10 00:03:01 UTC
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I followed the first two steps rickcha recommended and that's all it took. The last 3 step was not needed.
rickman
2017-12-10 16:59:25 UTC
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Post by v***@hotmail.com
I followed the first two steps rickcha recommended and that's all it took. The last 3 step was not needed.
Running an application "as administrator" is not recommended. I haven't had
this problem running under Win8, but if I did, I think I would be more
inclined to follow Dennis Bieber's advice.
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Rick C

Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
m***@gmail.com
2018-01-25 02:17:25 UTC
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Post by rickman
Post by v***@hotmail.com
I followed the first two steps rickcha recommended and that's all it took. The last 3 step was not needed.
Running an application "as administrator" is not recommended. I haven't had
this problem running under Win8, but if I did, I think I would be more
inclined to follow Dennis Bieber's advice.
--
Rick C
Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
Rick .. could you please explain why you would not recommend running an application "as administrator"? I cannot find Dennis Bieber's post. Thanks!
g***@gmail.com
2018-06-08 03:08:12 UTC
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Post by m***@gmail.com
Post by rickman
Post by v***@hotmail.com
I followed the first two steps rickcha recommended and that's all it took. The last 3 step was not needed.
Running an application "as administrator" is not recommended. I haven't had
this problem running under Win8, but if I did, I think I would be more
inclined to follow Dennis Bieber's advice.
--
Rick C
Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
Rick .. could you please explain why you would not recommend running an application "as administrator"? I cannot find Dennis Bieber's post. Thanks!
It's not what I recommend, this is what many others who understand this stuff say;. I believe it has to do with the extent of damage an app with admin privileges can do compared to not having admin privileges.

Rick C.
d***@gmail.com
2017-11-22 14:38:03 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
Go to properties.
click advanced.
check box run as an administrator.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-11-22 17:48:28 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
Go to properties.
click advanced.
check box run as an administrator.
Besides being a response to a five month old post, that is not the
recommended action.

Win7 and later changed the layout of the registry, and put some parts
under system protection. Eudora is trying to change entries that are now
protected.

The preferred solution is to A) turn off the Eudora features that try
to change registry; B) use the Windows "set default programs" feature to
enable/disable whatever Eudora is trying to change.


First look at Tools/Options/Extra Warnings and turn off the "Start
Eudora and it's not the default mailer".

Then look at is Eudora Tools/Options/MAPI -- Set the first radio group
to NEVER. If the middle option is checked, Eudora tries to replace the
system MAPI DLL with its own DLL on start-up, and reverse that on exit. One
should probably manually make a one-time replacement of the system MAPI DLL
(save the system one with a new extension so it can be restored later).
ALWAYS might work if first run as admin (and then ensure the option is in
the eudora.ini of all users). Note that DLLs are in protected space --
which is why ALWAY might work if done as admin.

Last, look at the Automation group -- it is possible that this too
affects the registry. I've never used the automation feature.


It works -- no need to run as administrator (which is dangerous as it
could mean that launching attachments inherits the admin privilege, and
that leads to letting malware run in elevated privileges.
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s***@gmail.com
2018-05-27 19:42:35 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
my eudora is not support my gmail id. i dont know eudora setting please tell me eudora setting
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-05-28 03:06:55 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
my eudora is not support my gmail id. i dont know eudora setting please tell me eudora setting
With regards to gmail -- the easiest solution is to... NOT USE GMAIL.
Eudora is too old to automatically update certificates, and Google has a
tendency to change gmail server certificates every few weeks (whereas most
servers go one to two years before generating a new certificate).

For Eudora, you have to fight with the manual procedure of approving an
unknown certificate, retrying, etc. until you get rid of all the skulls (or
whatever Eudora marks bad certificates with).

For general server settings..
https://www.hesk.com/knowledgebase/?article=72

NOTE: you also have to first tell gmail to "allow untrusted clients" (or
something like that)
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Sid Elbow
2018-05-29 17:24:31 UTC
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Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
With regards to gmail -- the easiest solution is to... NOT USE GMAIL.
Kind of a "babies and bathwater" solution though.
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
For Eudora, you have to fight with the manual procedure of approving an
unknown certificate, retrying, etc. until you get rid of all the skulls (or
whatever Eudora marks bad certificates with).
That's one way. Or you can simply install sTunnel and it will handle the
certificate exceptions on your (Eudora's) behalf invisibly. Then you can
go on using Gmail to your hearts content if that's what you want to do.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-05-30 01:44:47 UTC
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Post by Sid Elbow
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
With regards to gmail -- the easiest solution is to... NOT USE GMAIL.
Kind of a "babies and bathwater" solution though.
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
For Eudora, you have to fight with the manual procedure of approving an
unknown certificate, retrying, etc. until you get rid of all the skulls (or
whatever Eudora marks bad certificates with).
That's one way. Or you can simply install sTunnel and it will handle the
certificate exceptions on your (Eudora's) behalf invisibly. Then you can
go on using Gmail to your hearts content if that's what you want to do.
One could probably also get an RPi, configure it with Fetchmail (or
similar) for gmail, put in a POP server, and let the Eudora connect to the
RPi for mail <G>
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Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
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j***@gmail.com
2019-02-26 22:42:51 UTC
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Post by Sid Elbow
That's one way. Or you can simply install sTunnel and it will handle the
certificate exceptions on your (Eudora's) behalf invisibly. Then you can
go on using Gmail to your hearts content if that's what you want to do.
Is it asking a lot to request some sort of guide to implementing sTunnel to handle this problem?

John
Sid Elbow
2019-02-28 01:15:33 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by Sid Elbow
That's one way. Or you can simply install sTunnel and it will handle the
certificate exceptions on your (Eudora's) behalf invisibly. Then you can
go on using Gmail to your hearts content if that's what you want to do.
Is it asking a lot to request some sort of guide to implementing sTunnel to handle this problem?
1. Is it asking a lot to expect you to respond to a reply to your
request in less than 9 months?

2. Have you actually downloaded sTunnel and read its guide to
implementing? Or is that asking a lot?

3. (Since what I wrote was hearsay from the ListMoms Eudora mailing list
- all of it very positive) you could join that ListMoms list and get
more advice than you ever thought possible.

I'll watch out for your response in November.
s***@gmail.com
2018-05-27 19:44:21 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-05-28 03:15:24 UTC
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g***@gmail.com
2018-06-08 03:06:08 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry
I read on a web page this is about MS locking the registry entry for the default email application. I didn't bother reading how to fix this, but I'm sure it requires using regedit to unlock those fields.

Rick C.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-06-08 13:56:37 UTC
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I read on a web page this is about MS locking the registry entry for the default email application. I didn't bother reading how to fix this, but I'm sure it requires using regedit to unlock those fields.
M$ didn't just "lock" the entry... They MOVED it to a different
location. Eudora is trying to change an entry in the old location (which is
now a system protected area, just like user data isn't allowed in "Program
Files"), and doesn't have any effect; the next time it starts it "gets" the
system default settings and sees they don't match what it was expecting.

The solution is to

1) use the Windows controls to set default applications (in Win10,
<right-click>Start, Apps and Features, Default apps); You might need to do
this both as User and as Admin.

2) TURN OFF any options inside Eudora that try to change system settings
(no check for non-default app, don't use Eudora MAPI, maybe a few others).
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b***@gmail.com
2020-05-06 16:22:42 UTC
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Post by p***@emmet.com
recently for some reason i get a message that begins "eudora was
unable to update the system registry" when i start it. i have using
windows 7 right clicked properties and gone to advanced and have
clicked the box saying "run as administrator" but this has not helped.
any ideas how to get rid of this message? tia....
steve
I have opened it once as Administrator, after I got the message. As admin the message didn't come up. Next time started it as normal, also no message anymore. I noticed, when you try to change the default mail application in Windows 10, Eudora is not listed and cannot be searched for. I don't know how to cure that, but at least the message has gone.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2020-05-06 18:30:42 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
I have opened it once as Administrator, after I got the message. As admin the message didn't come up. Next time started it as normal, also no message anymore. I noticed, when you try to change the default mail application in Windows 10, Eudora is not listed and cannot be searched for. I don't know how to cure that, but at least the message has gone.
(Qualcomm) Eudora shows up as an option for "Default apps" / "Email" on
my Win10 system, as does Forte Agent. What doesn't show is Pandora -- an
guessing the author of that hasn't figured out how to have the installer
register it as a mail client. For Eudora -- I thought installing the
program (on a fresh OS) while in admin mode provided the registration
needed for it to show as an option in default apps config.
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