Discussion:
Cert error when none is present ....
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Pedro
2019-01-23 14:37:31 UTC
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Using Eudora 6.2 on a Win7 laptop. Know the whole certificate scenario and manage that when required on all accounts. Works fine on numerous accounts (using POP) but the two Yahoo mail accounts have an issue recently.

From "logging into POP server" after a 60 secs or so delay I get "SSL negotiation failed: Certificate bad: Destination host name does not match host name in certificate. But ignoring this error because certificate is trusted. Cause [1813]"

So I do the certificate dance:

*** Clear errormsg->Personalities->Dominant-<RtClk>->Properties ->IncomingMail ->LastSSL->CertManager

but at this stage NO CERTS show as needing any attention! I've trawled through them but nada. So back to the dance:

*** Done->OK->OK

then a CheckMail logs in fine and mail is accessed.

This gets rather old having to go through that each time I need to check for mail.

Once the "dance" has been executed, normal functionality returns.

Any constructive suggestions what to do to avoid this issue. Leaving Eudora is NOT under consideration.
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-28 00:48:56 UTC
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Post by Pedro
Using Eudora 6.2 on a Win7 laptop. Know the whole certificate scenario and manage that when required on all accounts. Works fine on numerous accounts (using POP) but the two Yahoo mail accounts have an issue recently.
From "logging into POP server" after a 60 secs or so delay I get "SSL negotiation failed: Certificate bad: Destination host name does not match host name in certificate. But ignoring this error because certificate is trusted. Cause [1813]"
*** Clear errormsg->Personalities->Dominant-<RtClk>->Properties ->IncomingMail ->LastSSL->CertManager
*** Done->OK->OK
then a CheckMail logs in fine and mail is accessed.
This gets rather old having to go through that each time I need to check for mail.
Once the "dance" has been executed, normal functionality returns.
Any constructive suggestions what to do to avoid this issue. Leaving Eudora is NOT under consideration.
I have not been able to get my Eudora 7109 to check email for a month
now - will not accept same pword that GMAIL.COM does . It used to
work. Until I set a new pword in GMAIL.COM. GMAIL emails work
fine. Both before and after my pword change/ Go figger.
Thanks
xxxxx
Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-01-28 18:00:26 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
I have not been able to get my Eudora 7109 to check email for a month
now - will not accept same pword that GMAIL.COM does . It used to
work. Until I set a new pword in GMAIL.COM. GMAIL emails work
fine. Both before and after my pword change/ Go figger.
What is the exact error message? What does the Eudora log report. You
might want to enable advanced logging to capture everything that gets
sent/received (if you choose to include part of the log in a post, make
sure you obscure the password part of the interaction).

Is there any chance that changing the password reset GMAILs security
system? You might have to check the GMAIL preferences with regards to
third-party mail clients.
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Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
***@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-28 22:10:36 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:00:26 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
I have not been able to get my Eudora 7109 to check email for a month
now - will not accept same pword that GMAIL.COM does . It used to
work. Until I set a new pword in GMAIL.COM. GMAIL emails work
fine. Both before and after my pword change/ Go figger.
What is the exact error message? What does the Eudora log report. You
might want to enable advanced logging to capture everything that gets
sent/received (if you choose to include part of the log in a post, make
sure you obscure the password part of the interaction).
After I changed my Gmail.com password. I had to enter that password to
Eudora of course. Have been thru that before. Eudora rejected the
new passwored. I did it twice. The Eudora error messages were:

SSL: 1 messages left to send, MAIL ***@l3MA|L.COM>
[D1:D0:49 PM]
There has been an error transferring your mail. I said: MAIL FFlDM:
and then the SMTP sewer [SMTP.l3MA|L.COM] said: 530 55.1
https:.-'/support'googlercom/mail/?p=WanbAuthError
125sm5339574itk.2B - gsmtp
(Dominant), SSL: 1 messages left to send, MAIL FFNJM:, Logging into
PUP Server, PASS [01:0EI:49 PM]
There has been an error transferring your mail. I said: PASS


Can u suggest anything? I gave been stuck a month now.

Thanx
xxxxx
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Is there any chance that changing the password reset GMAILs security
system? You might have to check the GMAIL preferences with regards to
third-party mail clients.
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-29 00:19:09 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:00:26 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
I have not been able to get my Eudora 7109 to check email for a month
now - will not accept same pword that GMAIL.COM does . It used to
work. Until I set a new pword in GMAIL.COM. GMAIL emails work
fine. Both before and after my pword change/ Go figger.
What is the exact error message? What does the Eudora log report. You
might want to enable advanced logging to capture everything that gets
sent/received (if you choose to include part of the log in a post, make
sure you obscure the password part of the interaction).
Is there any chance that changing the password reset GMAILs security
system? You might have to check the GMAIL preferences with regards to
third-party mail clients.
I think the problem indeed probably is within Gmail.com's
'settings/passwords', but I have looked and can't find anything wrong.
Maybe you can suggest something? Is there another place in Gmail.com
I should look? I did spot 'Restore settings to their original
defaults', which I tried to no avail.

A shame, because I have used Eudora for many many years, and I have
been quite happy. It is a great and unique app.

BTW, if you object to my posts on this hererin are objectionable, or
offend you in any way, just say so, and I will disappear. I am just
looking for help.

Thanks
xxxxx
Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-01-29 00:35:48 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
After I changed my Gmail.com password. I had to enter that password to
Eudora of course. Have been thru that before. Eudora rejected the
[D1:D0:49 PM]
and then the SMTP sewer [SMTP.l3MA|L.COM] said: 530 55.1
https:.-'/support'googlercom/mail/?p=WanbAuthError
125sm5339574itk.2B - gsmtp
(Dominant), SSL: 1 messages left to send, MAIL FFNJM:, Logging into
PUP Server, PASS [01:0EI:49 PM]
There has been an error transferring your mail. I said: PASS
Can u suggest anything? I gave been stuck a month now.
Which server are you using... The above says I3MAIL (actually -- please
cut&paste if possible, you had to have hand-typed that as you have I3MA|L
[vertical bar, rather than a capital "eye"]).

I3MAIL is NOT a GMAIL server.

C:\Users\Wulfraed>tracert smtp.i3mail.com

Tracing route to smtp.i3mail.com [63.88.42.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

...
C:\Users\Wulfraed>tracert smtp.gmail.com

Tracing route to gmail-smtp-msa.l.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c14::6d]
over a maximum of 30 hops:


Like I suggested before -- enable complete logging, attempt to send,
shutdown Eudora, and examine the log file. A test run is shown here:

-=-=-=-=-
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "EHLO ElusiveUnicorn.ix.netcom.com\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250-elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net Hello
ElusiveUnicorn.ix.netcom.com [76.255.154.65]\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250-SIZE 29360128\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250-8BITMIME\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250-PIPELINING\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN CRAM-MD5\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250 HELP\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "AUTH LOGIN\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "334 VXNlcm5hbWU6\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "OBSCURED\r\n" <<< login
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "OBSCURED=\r\n" <<< password
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "235 Authentication succeeded\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "RSET\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250 Reset OK\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "MAIL FROM:<***@ix.netcom.com>\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250 OK\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "RCPT TO:<***@ix.netcom.com>\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "250 Accepted\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "DATA\r\n"
16680 64: 1.42 Rcvd: "354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by
itself\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version
7.1.0.9\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 19:22:25 -0500\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "To: ***@ix.netcom.com\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "From: Dennis Lee Bieber
<***@ix.netcom.com>\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "Subject: Test message\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "Mime-Version: 1.0\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
format=flowed\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "Just a test of logging...\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "-- \r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "\tWulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber
AF6VN\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: " \r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "***@ix.netcom.com
HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ \r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: "\r\n"
16680 32: 1.42 Sent: ".\r\n"
16680 64: 1.43 Rcvd: "250 OK id=1goHAk-000BoE-G5\r\n"
16680 32: 1.43 Sent: "QUIT\r\n"
16680 64: 1.43 Rcvd: "221 elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net closing
connection\r\n"
MAIN 16: 1.43 Filtering Sent Messages
MAIN 16: 1.43 ***@ix.netcom.com, 07:22 PM 1/28/2019, Test message
MAIN 1024: 1.43 Filter "From:***@ix.netcom.com" matches "Test message"
MAIN 128: 1.43 Leeway 10, Sent: MBX 1540595476, TOC 1540595476
-=-=-=-=-


As a last guess -- did you have GMAIL configured to forward mail to you
I3MAIL account; if so, you need to use your I3MAIL password, not a GMAIL
password.
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Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
***@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-29 12:27:29 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 19:35:48 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
After I changed my Gmail.com password. I had to enter that password to
Eudora of course. Have been thru that before. Eudora rejected the
[D1:D0:49 PM]
etc

as a last guess -- did you have GMAIL configured to forward mail to
you
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
I3MAIL account; if so, you need to use your I3MAIL password, not a GMAIL
password.
AW GEEZ! I am sorry that my attempt to send the Eudora error
messages ended up so garbaged up. I tried to use OCR on what I had
(which was a JPG image - Eudora wouldn't allow me to do a copy-paste
for some reason). Forget what I said , I still have the JPG image.
I don't know how to send an image JPG file in Agent.
Can you tell me how I can send a JPG image my posts? From long ago I
remembr one could send file to a URL and then send that address in an
Agent post. But I have forgotten how. I will send the JPG image if I
knew how.
Thanks.
xxxxx
Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-01-29 17:25:39 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
AW GEEZ! I am sorry that my attempt to send the Eudora error
messages ended up so garbaged up. I tried to use OCR on what I had
(which was a JPG image - Eudora wouldn't allow me to do a copy-paste
for some reason). Forget what I said , I still have the JPG image.
I don't know how to send an image JPG file in Agent.
Can you tell me how I can send a JPG image my posts? From long ago I
remembr one could send file to a URL and then send that address in an
Agent post. But I have forgotten how. I will send the JPG image if I
knew how.
I usually ignore embedded images -- they are just as much problem to
review as your attempted OCR, especially as one can not cut&paste anything
and they expand the size of a post drastically.

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
***@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-29 20:30:50 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:25:39 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
AW GEEZ! I am sorry that my attempt to send the Eudora error
messages ended up so garbaged up. I tried to use OCR on what I had
(which was a JPG image - Eudora wouldn't allow me to do a copy-paste
for some reason). Forget what I said , I still have the JPG image.
I don't know how to send an image JPG file in Agent.
Can you tell me how I can send a JPG image my posts? From long ago I
remembr one could send file to a URL and then send that address in an
Agent post. But I have forgotten how. I will send the JPG image if I
knew how.
I usually ignore embedded images -- they are just as much problem to
review as your attempted OCR, especially as one can not cut&paste anything
and they expand the size of a post drastically.
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Thanks for the URLs. One I had looked at myself. I learned I must be
logged in as administrator to work with Gmail settings, or at least
some of them. My normal account is set 'as administrator', but I am
thinking now that may not be enough. I have then tried to start (boot
up) this W10 PC in safe mode to then login as administrator, but I
haver neen able to because for some reason my function keys (ie F8)
and my keyboard itself seems not recognized at that point. Never has.
Hence I have not been able to get into safe mode. In fact, I have
never been able to get into the BIOS at all.
Great1!

I also have tried tinypics to get you jpeg file image of my Eudora
error messages (eudora errors.jpg) . Tinypics says my image is not
valid. Even tho I can show that image with my W10 display app.
Great2!

Any suggestions? I'll try anything at this point.

Thanks for trying to help tho.

xxxxx
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-29 20:51:25 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:25:39 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
AW GEEZ! I am sorry that my attempt to send the Eudora error
messages ended up so garbaged up. I tried to use OCR on what I had
(which was a JPG image - Eudora wouldn't allow me to do a copy-paste
for some reason). Forget what I said , I still have the JPG image.
I don't know how to send an image JPG file in Agent.
Can you tell me how I can send a JPG image my posts? From long ago I
remembr one could send file to a URL and then send that address in an
Agent post. But I have forgotten how. I will send the JPG image if I
knew how.
I usually ignore embedded images -- they are just as much problem to
review as your attempted OCR, especially as one can not cut&paste anything
and they expand the size of a post drastically.
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Since I see no 'left navigation panel' in my
Gmailhttps://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox page, I assume therein
may lie my problem(s). All I see is a main menu with no 'security'
selection.

xxxxx
Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-01-30 00:49:30 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Thanks for the URLs. One I had looked at myself. I learned I must be
logged in as administrator to work with Gmail settings, or at least
some of them. My normal account is set 'as administrator', but I am
thinking now that may not be enough. I have then tried to start (boot
Note that when the 6010255 link refers to "administrator" they are
referring to a GMAIL administrator (primarily, it seems, for mail accounts
that are provided under some "private" GMAIL service -- like a school that
issues email accounts and can control the settings for all the students)

"""
If you don't see this setting, your administrator might have turned off
less secure app account access.
"""

is the administrator of your mail domain, not the administrator of the
local computer.

How did you obtain the GMAIL address? Sign-up yourself, or was it
issued to you? If it was issued, you need to talk to the administrator that
did the issuing.

I can't really help with anything else -- I do have a GMAIL address,
but that is only because one can't access the Android Play Store without
it, and my phone needs that access to update applications. I do NOT have it
configured on anything other than my phone and tablet (same reason).

FYI: for nearly a year now I've been using Pandora mail
http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/pandora.htm (in paid mode -- it tends to
get incremental updates about every three weeks). Need paid mode to have
more than one personality, filter, etc. It can import from Eudora.
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
***@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-30 14:47:05 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:49:30 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Thanks for the URLs. One I had looked at myself. I learned I must be
logged in as administrator to work with Gmail settings, or at least
some of them. My normal account is set 'as administrator', but I am
thinking now that may not be enough. I have then tried to start (boot
Note that when the 6010255 link refers to "administrator" they are
referring to a GMAIL administrator (primarily, it seems, for mail accounts
that are provided under some "private" GMAIL service -- like a school that
issues email accounts and can control the settings for all the students)
"""
If you don't see this setting, your administrator might have turned off
less secure app account access.
"""
is the administrator of your mail domain, not the administrator of the
local computer.
How did you obtain the GMAIL address? Sign-up yourself, or was it
issued to you? If it was issued, you need to talk to the administrator that
did the issuing.
I can't really help with anything else -- I do have a GMAIL address,
but that is only because one can't access the Android Play Store without
it, and my phone needs that access to update applications. I do NOT have it
configured on anything other than my phone and tablet (same reason).
FYI: for nearly a year now I've been using Pandora mail
http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/pandora.htm (in paid mode -- it tends to
get incremental updates about every three weeks). Need paid mode to have
more than one personality, filter, etc. It can import from Eudora.
Here is a jpeg pic of the Eudora errors I get when I enter the new
Gmail.com password in order to 'check mail'.:

Loading Image...

Tinypic would not accept the file for some reason. So I am trying a
new service postimage - https://postimg.cc/pmhxzQMr/8e51b610

Please take a look and see what you think.
Thanks
xxxxx
Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-01-30 20:56:59 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
Please take a look and see what you think.
What I think doesn't really matter...

Either:
1) You are NOT entering the account/password into the Eudora personality
correctly

2) The account ON GMAIL is configured to only accept those "secure apps"
and you need to have the GMAIL account settings changed.

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7126229?p=WantAuthError&visit_id=0-636555923183967793-2829638224&rd=2#cantsignin
"""
If you recently changed your Gmail password, you might need to re-enter
your Gmail account information or completely repeat your Gmail account
setup on your other email client.
"""

Suggestion: Use Special/Forget Password(s). THEN try sending messages
-- you should be prompted to enter the password for each personality.
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
***@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-31 00:13:41 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:49:30 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Thanks for the URLs. One I had looked at myself. I learned I must be
logged in as administrator to work with Gmail settings, or at least
some of them. My normal account is set 'as administrator', but I am
thinking now that may not be enough. I have then tried to start (boot
Note that when the 6010255 link refers to "administrator" they are
referring to a GMAIL administrator (primarily, it seems, for mail accounts
that are provided under some "private" GMAIL service -- like a school that
issues email accounts and can control the settings for all the students)
"""
If you don't see this setting, your administrator might have turned off
less secure app account access.
"""
is the administrator of your mail domain, not the administrator of the
local computer.
Access for less secure apps setting has been turned on
Still same
xxxxx
Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
How did you obtain the GMAIL address? Sign-up yourself, or was it
issued to you? If it was issued, you need to talk to the administrator that
did the issuing.
I can't really help with anything else -- I do have a GMAIL address,
but that is only because one can't access the Android Play Store without
it, and my phone needs that access to update applications. I do NOT have it
configured on anything other than my phone and tablet (same reason).
FYI: for nearly a year now I've been using Pandora mail
http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/pandora.htm (in paid mode -- it tends to
get incremental updates about every three weeks). Need paid mode to have
more than one personality, filter, etc. It can import from Eudora.
Here is a jpeg pic of the Eudora errors I get when I enter the new
https://i.postimg.cc/cLTHqTDR/eudora-errors.jpg
Tinypic would not accept the file for some reason. So I am trying a
new service postimage - https://postimg.cc/pmhxzQMr/8e51b610
Please take a look and see what you think.
Thanks
xxxxx
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-31 21:38:04 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by x***@alt.gov
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:49:30 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Thanks for the URLs. One I had looked at myself. I learned I must be
logged in as administrator to work with Gmail settings, or at least
some of them. My normal account is set 'as administrator', but I am
thinking now that may not be enough. I have then tried to start (boot
Note that when the 6010255 link refers to "administrator" they are
referring to a GMAIL administrator (primarily, it seems, for mail accounts
that are provided under some "private" GMAIL service -- like a school that
issues email accounts and can control the settings for all the students)
"""
If you don't see this setting, your administrator might have turned off
less secure app account access.
"""
is the administrator of your mail domain, not the administrator of the
local computer.
Access for less secure apps setting has been turned on
Still same
xxxxx
Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
How did you obtain the GMAIL address? Sign-up yourself, or was it
issued to you? If it was issued, you need to talk to the administrator that
did the issuing.
I can't really help with anything else -- I do have a GMAIL address,
but that is only because one can't access the Android Play Store without
it, and my phone needs that access to update applications. I do NOT have it
configured on anything other than my phone and tablet (same reason).
FYI: for nearly a year now I've been using Pandora mail
http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/pandora.htm (in paid mode -- it tends to
get incremental updates about every three weeks). Need paid mode to have
more than one personality, filter, etc. It can import from Eudora.
Here is a jpeg pic of the Eudora errors I get when I enter the new
https://i.postimg.cc/cLTHqTDR/eudora-errors.jpg
Tinypic would not accept the file for some reason. So I am trying a
new service postimage - https://postimg.cc/pmhxzQMr/8e51b610
Please take a look and see what you think.
Thanks
xxxxx
When I booted up this AM, I found that I can now send with Eudora, but
not receive. Now that Gmail Access for less secure apps setting has
been turned on, I am halfway home as they say.
xxxxx
micky
2019-02-12 06:43:11 UTC
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In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, on Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:13:41 -0500,
Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by x***@alt.gov
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:49:30 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Thanks for the URLs. One I had looked at myself. I learned I must be
logged in as administrator to work with Gmail settings, or at least
some of them. My normal account is set 'as administrator', but I am
thinking now that may not be enough. I have then tried to start (boot
Note that when the 6010255 link refers to "administrator" they are
referring to a GMAIL administrator (primarily, it seems, for mail accounts
that are provided under some "private" GMAIL service -- like a school that
issues email accounts and can control the settings for all the students)
"""
If you don't see this setting, your administrator might have turned off
less secure app account access.
"""
is the administrator of your mail domain, not the administrator of the
local computer.
Access for less secure apps setting has been turned on
Still same
What about two-stage authorization. That generates a different password
for every program that accessses gmail.

micky
2019-02-12 06:38:11 UTC
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In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, on Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:47:05 -0500,
Post by x***@alt.gov
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:49:30 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Thanks for the URLs. One I had looked at myself. I learned I must be
logged in as administrator to work with Gmail settings, or at least
some of them. My normal account is set 'as administrator', but I am
thinking now that may not be enough. I have then tried to start (boot
Note that when the 6010255 link refers to "administrator" they are
referring to a GMAIL administrator (primarily, it seems, for mail accounts
that are provided under some "private" GMAIL service -- like a school that
issues email accounts and can control the settings for all the students)
"""
If you don't see this setting, your administrator might have turned off
less secure app account access.
"""
is the administrator of your mail domain, not the administrator of the
local computer.
How did you obtain the GMAIL address? Sign-up yourself, or was it
issued to you? If it was issued, you need to talk to the administrator that
did the issuing.
I can't really help with anything else -- I do have a GMAIL address,
but that is only because one can't access the Android Play Store without
it, and my phone needs that access to update applications. I do NOT have it
configured on anything other than my phone and tablet (same reason).
FYI: for nearly a year now I've been using Pandora mail
http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/pandora.htm (in paid mode -- it tends to
get incremental updates about every three weeks). Need paid mode to have
more than one personality, filter, etc. It can import from Eudora.
Here is a jpeg pic of the Eudora errors I get when I enter the new
https://i.postimg.cc/cLTHqTDR/eudora-errors.jpg
Instead of an image, one of the Eudora log files has the error in a form
from which you can copy and poast.
Post by x***@alt.gov
Tinypic would not accept the file for some reason. So I am trying a
new service postimage - https://postimg.cc/pmhxzQMr/8e51b610
Please take a look and see what you think.
Thanks
xxxxx
micky
2019-02-12 06:40:45 UTC
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In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, on Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:30:50 -0500,
Post by x***@alt.gov
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:25:39 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
AW GEEZ! I am sorry that my attempt to send the Eudora error
messages ended up so garbaged up. I tried to use OCR on what I had
(which was a JPG image - Eudora wouldn't allow me to do a copy-paste
for some reason). Forget what I said , I still have the JPG image.
I don't know how to send an image JPG file in Agent.
Can you tell me how I can send a JPG image my posts? From long ago I
remembr one could send file to a URL and then send that address in an
Agent post. But I have forgotten how. I will send the JPG image if I
knew how.
I usually ignore embedded images -- they are just as much problem to
review as your attempted OCR, especially as one can not cut&paste anything
and they expand the size of a post drastically.
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Thanks for the URLs. One I had looked at myself. I learned I must be
logged in as administrator to work with Gmail settings, or at least
some of them. My normal account is set 'as administrator', but I a
You don't need to be logged in as an admistrator to set gmail settings
or to run Eudora. IN fact Katrina says it causes problems.


Running as an administrator is different from using an administrator
persona/account in Windows. The latter is fine.
Post by x***@alt.gov
thinking now that may not be enough. I have then tried to start (boot
up) this W10 PC in safe mode to then login as administrator, but I
haver neen able to because for some reason my function keys (ie F8)
and my keyboard itself seems not recognized at that point. Never has.
Hence I have not been able to get into safe mode. In fact, I have
never been able to get into the BIOS at all.
Great1!
I also have tried tinypics to get you jpeg file image of my Eudora
error messages (eudora errors.jpg) . Tinypics says my image is not
valid. Even tho I can show that image with my W10 display app.
Great2!
Any suggestions? I'll try anything at this point.
Thanks for trying to help tho.
xxxxx
Piet
2019-01-29 09:58:10 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
[...]
and then the SMTP sewer [SMTP.l3MA|L.COM] said: 530 55.1
SMTP sewer? Thank you, you made my day. :-)

-p
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-29 12:29:42 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 10:58:10 +0100, Piet
Post by Piet
Post by x***@alt.gov
[...]
and then the SMTP sewer [SMTP.l3MA|L.COM] said: 530 55.1
SMTP sewer? Thank you, you made my day. :-)
-p
me 2.
sorry
xxxxx
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-29 00:23:52 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:00:26 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
I have not been able to get my Eudora 7109 to check email for a month
...

Did you just happen to know a 'Danny Bieber' in Maryland? Now dead I
think. Should be - everyone else I knew is.
xxxx
Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-01-29 17:11:04 UTC
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Post by x***@alt.gov
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:00:26 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
I have not been able to get my Eudora 7109 to check email for a month
...
Did you just happen to know a 'Danny Bieber' in Maryland? Now dead I
think. Should be - everyone else I knew is.
xxxx
No... My core family is west Michigan.
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
***@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-30 00:36:12 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:11:04 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:00:26 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
I have not been able to get my Eudora 7109 to check email for a month
...
Did you just happen to know a 'Danny Bieber' in Maryland? Now dead I
think. Should be - everyone else I knew is.
xxxx
No... My core family is west Michigan.
The Danny I knew as a work assoc lived in Maryland. Fine friend. Had
to ask. Thanks.
xxxxx
x***@alt.gov
2019-01-29 18:36:01 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:00:26 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Post by x***@alt.gov
I have not been able to get my Eudora 7109 to check email for a month
now - will not accept same pword that GMAIL.COM does . It used to
work. Until I set a new pword in GMAIL.COM. GMAIL emails work
fine. Both before and after my pword change/ Go figger.
What is the exact error message? What does the Eudora log report. You
might want to enable advanced logging to capture everything that gets
sent/received (if you choose to include part of the log in a post, make
sure you obscure the password part of the interaction).
Is there any chance that changing the password reset GMAILs security
system? You might have to check the GMAIL preferences with regards to
third-party mail clients.
For some reason tinypics won't accept a jpg of the eudora errors. Says
'illegal format' despite the fact that the image displays nicely on my
PC. Have to work on it to see why. Otherwise I will have to
hand-type them which I don't want to do because they are very complez.
Please wait.
xxxxx
micky
2019-02-11 15:03:39 UTC
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In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, on Wed, 23 Jan 2019 06:37:31 -0800
Post by Pedro
Using Eudora 6.2 on a Win7 laptop. Know the whole certificate scenario and manage that when required on all accounts. Works fine on numerous accounts (using POP) but the two Yahoo mail accounts have an issue recently.
From "logging into POP server" after a 60 secs or so delay I get "SSL negotiation failed: Certificate bad: Destination host name does not match host name in certificate. But ignoring this error because certificate is trusted. Cause [1813]"
This itself doesn't matter, because, as it says, it's ignoring the
error. Maybe it's a certificate that wasn't trusted at one time but you
told to trust it.

OTOH, there could be a bad certificate below it.
Post by Pedro
*** Clear errormsg->Personalities->Dominant-<RtClk>->Properties ->IncomingMail ->LastSSL->CertManager
*** Done->OK->OK
then a CheckMail logs in fine and mail is accessed.
This gets rather old having to go through that each time I need to check for mail.
I don't know. ;-(
Post by Pedro
Once the "dance" has been executed, normal functionality returns.
Any constructive suggestions what to do to avoid this issue. Leaving Eudora is NOT under consideration.
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