suppressing splash screen on silent install?

[Colin Odden]

I'm putting together an unattended installation of Eudora 6 for Windows.
Even though I've chosen all the recommended options in instopt.ini, I still
get the Eudora splash screen and the 'Eudora 6.0 Setup is preparing the
InstallShield Wizard.' I'd like to get rid of the splash screen if possible
so that the installation is actually silent.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

[James Hodson]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:43:04 -0500, "Colin Odden"

Post by Colin Odden
I'm putting together an unattended installation of Eudora 6 for Windows.
Even though I've chosen all the recommended options in instopt.ini, I still
get the Eudora splash screen and the 'Eudora 6.0 Setup is preparing the
InstallShield Wizard.' I'd like to get rid of the splash screen if possible
so that the installation is actually silent.
Any ideas?

Sounds like your running the installation file (Eudora5.2.1.exe in my
case) rather than Eudora.exe.

In Eudora 5.2.1 entering NoSplashScreen=1in the Eudora.ini file stops
the splash screen.

James

[James Hodson]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:35:38 +0000, James Hodson

Sounds like your ...

Sorry: you're ...

James

[Colin Odden]

I'm running setup.exe with special options specified in instopt.ini. The
installation is silent EXCEPT for the presence of the splash screen. The
eudora.ini option you're talking about works great for getting rid of the
splash screen when running Eudora, but not for installing it. I decided to
edit setup.bmp and make it blank, but there's still the 'Eudora 6.0 setup
is...' window that pops up.

Cheers,
Colin

Post by James Hodson
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:43:04 -0500, "Colin Odden"

Post by Colin Odden
I'm putting together an unattended installation of Eudora 6 for Windows.
Even though I've chosen all the recommended options in instopt.ini, I still
get the Eudora splash screen and the 'Eudora 6.0 Setup is preparing the
InstallShield Wizard.' I'd like to get rid of the splash screen if possible
so that the installation is actually silent.
Any ideas?

Sounds like your running the installation file (Eudora5.2.1.exe in my
case) rather than Eudora.exe.
In Eudora 5.2.1 entering NoSplashScreen=1in the Eudora.ini file stops
the splash screen.
James
--
"Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

[Ajo Wissink]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:07:13 -0500, "Colin Odden"

Post by Colin Odden
I'm running setup.exe with special options specified in instopt.ini. The
installation is silent EXCEPT for the presence of the splash screen. The
eudora.ini option you're talking about works great for getting rid of the
splash screen when running Eudora, but not for installing it. I decided to
edit setup.bmp and make it blank, but there's still the 'Eudora 6.0 setup
is...' window that pops up.

When you replace it with a blank bmp it will not pop up. You can edit
setup.bmp, but remember that you have to remove " read only" first.

[Colin Odden]

I'm afraid that I've done this already. I'm sure that the bitmap is
displayed but it just nonexistent, but this doesn't solve the problem of the
"eudora 6.0 is preparing the installshield wizard..."

I haven't tried installing by running setup.exe -s. This is the common
switch for silent installs using Installshield. setup.exe -r generally
records an installation to setup.iss, but I'm not sure whether this is true
of the Eudora installer.

-Colin

Post by Ajo Wissink
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:07:13 -0500, "Colin Odden"

Post by Colin Odden
I'm running setup.exe with special options specified in instopt.ini. The
installation is silent EXCEPT for the presence of the splash screen. The
eudora.ini option you're talking about works great for getting rid of the
splash screen when running Eudora, but not for installing it. I decided to
edit setup.bmp and make it blank, but there's still the 'Eudora 6.0 setup
is...' window that pops up.

When you replace it with a blank bmp it will not pop up. You can edit
setup.bmp, but remember that you have to remove " read only" first.
--
Ajo Wissink

[Ajo Wissink]

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:10:03 -0500, "Colin Odden"

Post by Colin Odden
I'm afraid that I've done this already. I'm sure that the bitmap is
displayed but it just nonexistent, but this doesn't solve the problem of the
"eudora 6.0 is preparing the installshield wizard..."

Okay, but that has nothing to do with the splash screen.

Good luck, you're in for some serious hacking..........

[Colin Odden]

Maybe we're not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about installing
Eudora, which should reasonably offer a 'silent' or 'unattended' option. It
sounds like you're talking about *running* Eudora (excuse me if I'm wrong),
where an option in setup.ini will suppress the splash screen.

Just for posterity, because this is an installshield installer, a completely
silent installation can be invoked with setup.exe -s, but if you want
anything other than eudora's default options you have to explicitly specify
them in instopt.ini. It also looks like setup won't force a reboot when
invoked silently; this may or may not be desirable and I'm not sure what
switch would force one.

-Colin

Post by Ajo Wissink
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:10:03 -0500, "Colin Odden"

Post by Colin Odden
I'm afraid that I've done this already. I'm sure that the bitmap is
displayed but it just nonexistent, but this doesn't solve the problem of the
"eudora 6.0 is preparing the installshield wizard..."

Okay, but that has nothing to do with the splash screen.
Good luck, you're in for some serious hacking..........
--
Ajo Wissink

[meirman]

In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows on Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:29:15 -0500

Post by Colin Odden
Maybe we're not talking about the same thing.

No you're not.

Post by Colin Odden
I'm talking about installing
Eudora, which should reasonably offer a 'silent' or 'unattended' option. It
sounds like you're talking about *running* Eudora (excuse me if I'm wrong),
where an option in setup.ini will suppress the splash screen.
Just for posterity, because this is an installshield installer, a completely
silent installation can be invoked with setup.exe -s, but if you want
anything other than eudora's default options you have to explicitly specify
them in instopt.ini.

Thanks. These things are good to know. I'm saving this post.

Post by Colin Odden
It also looks like setup won't force a reboot when
invoked silently; this may or may not be desirable and I'm not sure what
switch would force one.

Is there any need to reboot when installing Eudora? I don't think so.

The registry is not used by Eudora**, so no new version of the
registry needs to be loaded. And I don't think any files are updated
that would be write-protected because Windows is running. This is one
of the nice things about Eudora (and Agent/Free Agent, for that
matter)

There are loads of little programs that don't require rebooting.
Eudora is a big powerful program that doesn't either, afair.

**Except I think to note the default mailer. There are probably other
entries in the registry that have to do with Eudora, but Eudora does
not use them. Windows is compulsive about keeping entries about such
things, but that does not mean Eudora cares.

Post by Colin Odden
-Colin

Post by Ajo Wissink
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:10:03 -0500, "Colin Odden"

Post by Colin Odden
I'm afraid that I've done this already. I'm sure that the bitmap is
displayed but it just nonexistent, but this doesn't solve the problem of

the

Post by Ajo Wissink

Post by Colin Odden
"eudora 6.0 is preparing the installshield wizard..."

Okay, but that has nothing to do with the splash screen.
Good luck, you're in for some serious hacking..........
--
Ajo Wissink

Meirman

If emailing, please let me know whether
or not you are posting the same letter.

Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.

[Katrina Knight]

Post by meirman

Post by Colin Odden
It also looks like setup won't force a reboot when
invoked silently; this may or may not be desirable and I'm not sure what
switch would force one.

Is there any need to reboot when installing Eudora? I don't think so.

If Eudora installs newer versions of any of the shared dlls, then the
computer should be rebooted after the install. If the computer is running
WinXP, the shared dlls are usually new enough already. If it is running an
older version of Windows, and the files haven't been updated by anything
else, then Eudora often ends up installing newer versions.

[meirman]

In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows on Fri, 02 Jan 2004 19:23:35 GMT

Post by Katrina Knight

Post by meirman

Post by Colin Odden
It also looks like setup won't force a reboot when
invoked silently; this may or may not be desirable and I'm not sure what
switch would force one.

Is there any need to reboot when installing Eudora? I don't think so.

If Eudora installs newer versions of any of the shared dlls, then the
computer should be rebooted after the install. If the computer is running
WinXP, the shared dlls are usually new enough already. If it is running an
older version of Windows, and the files haven't been updated by anything
else, then Eudora often ends up installing newer versions.

Thanks. I don't want to mislead him.

Meirman

If emailing, please let me know whether
or not you are posting the same letter.

Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.

[Colin Odden]

Ugh. I'm sorry, my post below is a lie. I tried setup.exe -s and the
installation fails. This is because Eudora is both using InstallShield AND
has its own semi-silent installation method. Here's what I found:

Method 1: Eudora's propietary installer - edit instopt.ini to set options
for a silent installation. Unfortunately, I couldn't seem to get rid of the
splash screen with this method.

Method 2: InstallShield method - This is the standard InstallShield method.
First, run setup.exe -r and go through the GUI installation. When you're
finished, find c:\winnt\setup.iss or c:\windows\setup.iss. Put this file
somewhere sensible. To deploy silently, run

setup.exe -s /f1%PATHTOsetup.iss /f2%PATHTOLOGFILE

for example,

setup.exe -s /f1c:\installer\setup.exe -s /f1c:\installer\setup.iss
/f2c:\logdirectory\eudorasetup.log

I'm calling the installer from a Perl script, where

$returncode = system ("setup.exe -s /f1c:\installer\setup.exe -s
/f1c:\installer\setup.iss /f2c:\logdirectory\eudorasetup.log");

if ($returncode !=0) { #installation failed
print "\nfailed: $!\n";
}else{ #installation OK
print "\nsuccessful\n";
}

Eudora's support site has NO DOCUMENTION for my searches of 'setup.iss' or
'instopt.ini.' I'm really embarrassed for them, since they're making their
users spend hours figuring out how to properly deploy their software.

-Colin

Post by Colin Odden
Maybe we're not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about installing
Eudora, which should reasonably offer a 'silent' or 'unattended' option. It
sounds like you're talking about *running* Eudora (excuse me if I'm wrong),
where an option in setup.ini will suppress the splash screen.
Just for posterity, because this is an installshield installer, a completely
silent installation can be invoked with setup.exe -s, but if you want
anything other than eudora's default options you have to explicitly specif

y

Post by Colin Odden
them in instopt.ini. It also looks like setup won't force a reboot when
invoked silently; this may or may not be desirable and I'm not sure what
switch would force one.
-Colin

Post by Ajo Wissink
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:10:03 -0500, "Colin Odden"

Post by Colin Odden
I'm afraid that I've done this already. I'm sure that the bitmap is
displayed but it just nonexistent, but this doesn't solve the problem

of

Post by Colin Odden
the

Post by Ajo Wissink

Post by Colin Odden
"eudora 6.0 is preparing the installshield wizard..."

Okay, but that has nothing to do with the splash screen.
Good luck, you're in for some serious hacking..........
--
Ajo Wissink