Eudora 7.1 makes me angry even with .gmx

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Eudora 7.1 makes me more and more angry. Besides the known problems
with the .gmail certificates that every week I have to manually renew
them, now I have problems even with .gmx. I have two accounts. One
download the emails normally and the other one no. Eduora write: ERR
Autentication failed.
Could I solve this problem? Thnaks

[Will Seehorn]

Try STUNNEL to solve the certificate problem s

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by Will Seehorn
Try STUNNEL to solve the certificate problem s

Do you think STUNNEL is better than hermesmail?
Is easy to install? I think it is a bit complicated for me.

[Sid Elbow]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Eudora 7.1 makes me more and more angry. Besides the known problems
with the .gmail certificates that every week I have to manually renew
them,

The fix from Hermes that Wulfraed mentioned solved that problem months
ago for all those that installed it.

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
now I have problems even with .gmx. I have two accounts. One
download the emails normally and the other one no. Eduora write: ERR
Autentication failed.
Could I solve this problem?

Logically, if you have two accounts at the same email provider and one
works but not the other, then your setup has different configurations
for the two accounts. No one here can guess what that difference might
be - you have to do the work. It shouldn't be difficult to determine the
difference and correct the offending configuration.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by Sid Elbow
Logically, if you have two accounts at the same email provider and one
works but not the other, then your setup has different configurations
for the two accounts. No one here can guess what that difference might
be - you have to do the work. It shouldn't be difficult to determine the
difference and correct the offending configuration.

It was the strangeness of gmx. In fact I entered the web and disabled
the POP3 configuration box and then I enabled it again. Now it works
well.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/ shows a last update July
25 for the SSL package.

I used hermesmail some months ago but after 1 month I got the same
certificate problems.
You suggest to install it again (new version) but every time I try to
install it, I got a problem: "Installation failed" "another version of
the product is already installed". I have to unisall tho older version
and then I install it. Even time ago I did it. I have 4-5 older
versions and I have always to unistall all those old versions. uffff
It is almost better to renew the certificates in Eudora manually.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it

https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/ shows a last update July
25 for the SSL package.

I used hermesmail some months ago but after 1 month I got the same
certificate problems.

The full HermesMail is a development port based off the original Eudora
code.

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
You suggest to install it again (new version) but every time I try to
install it, I got a problem: "Installation failed" "another version of

The HermesSSL does not have an installer; it is a zip file that one
unpacks and copies the contents into the Eudora (they are now packaging the
M$ Visual C redistributable installer, but really -- if you have an
up-to-date system, you should only have needed that part once).

HermesSSL package is meant for use with Eudora.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
The HermesSSL does not have an installer; it is a zip file that one
unpacks and copies the contents into the Eudora (they are now packaging the

I'm worried. What did I install?
I downloded HermSSL.zip and unzipped it. In the folder I see __MACOSX
and HermSSL folders. Inside HermSSL there is vcredist.exe.
I installed it.
Is it a wrong install?

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
I'm worried. What did I install?
I downloded HermSSL.zip and unzipped it. In the folder I see __MACOSX
and HermSSL folders. Inside HermSSL there is vcredist.exe.
I installed it.
Is it a wrong install?

It is a library /used/ by the SSL DLLs, but as stated, most up-to-date
Windows systems should already have a version of it.

The real "install" is to copy the rest of the files (ignore the MACOSX
unless you are actually running a Macintosh system) to the Eudora program
directory -- as described in the readme file.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
The real "install" is to copy the rest of the files (ignore the MACOSX
unless you are actually running a Macintosh system) to the Eudora program
directory -- as described in the readme file.

Mi biggest problem is I don't understand that Readme text file:

4. Click Start > Run...
5.
a. Enter the text "%ProgramFiles%\Qualcomm\Eudora" (without
the
"inverted commas") into the box.
b. Enter the text "%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Qualcomm\Eudora"
(without the
"inverted commas") into the box.

I get an error because I don't understand.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
The real "install" is to copy the rest of the files (ignore the MACOSX
unless you are actually running a Macintosh system) to the Eudora program
directory -- as described in the readme file.

4. Click Start > Run...
5.
a. Enter the text "%ProgramFiles%\Qualcomm\Eudora" (without
the
"inverted commas") into the box.
b. Enter the text "%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Qualcomm\Eudora"
(without the
"inverted commas") into the box.
I get an error because I don't understand.

What error?

Are you running on a 64-bit or 32-bit Windows build?

On Win10, you need to RIGHT-CLICK the start menu (the [+] windows icon)
to get to the menu that has Run.

The parts inside %...% are environment variables which get expanded to
the actual location on your system. The "x86" version is what will be found
on a 64-bit Windows to hold 32-bit applications. You'll likely get an error
for step "a" unless you are on 32-bit OS -- because that location does not
exist on 64-bit. Similar, step "b" will cause an error on 32-bit OS, since
32-bit just uses Programfiles.

None of this is specific to Eudora -- it is stuff one should know in
order to fully use the operating system.

The whole purpose of all that is to just open the file explorer showing
the Eudora installation directory. On my system that is:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora

The reason for using the environment variable form is that advanced systems
may have put the applications on a different location.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Demis, help me please because I still don't understand anything.
Maybe I don't understand the right steps because my english is not
good and I'm inexperienced too, so I don't understand fine.

I have Windows 64-bit.
Now I write my steps:
I click wirh right-click in Start icon, then I click on Execute and I
paste that string:
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I get this error:
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Could you tell me with different words (step by step) what I can do
precisely please?
I thank you a lot.

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
What error?
Are you running on a 64-bit or 32-bit Windows build?
On Win10, you need to RIGHT-CLICK the start menu (the [+] windows icon)
to get to the menu that has Run.
The parts inside %...% are environment variables which get expanded to
the actual location on your system. The "x86" version is what will be found
on a 64-bit Windows to hold 32-bit applications. You'll likely get an error
for step "a" unless you are on 32-bit OS -- because that location does not
exist on 64-bit. Similar, step "b" will cause an error on 32-bit OS, since
32-bit just uses Programfiles.
None of this is specific to Eudora -- it is stuff one should know in
order to fully use the operating system.
The whole purpose of all that is to just open the file explorer showing
C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora
The reason for using the environment variable form is that advanced systems
may have put the applications on a different location.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Demis, help me please because I still don't understand anything.
Maybe I don't understand the right steps because my english is not
good and I'm inexperienced too, so I don't understand fine.
I have Windows 64-bit.
Could you tell me with different words (step by step) what I can do
precisely please?

You are on a 64-bit OS; Eudora is a 32-bit application.

SKIP the step "a" -- it applies if on a 32-bit OS.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
You are on a 64-bit OS; Eudora is a 32-bit application.
SKIP the step "a" -- it applies if on a 32-bit OS.

NOW I UNDERSTAND. I did what I read on the readme text file and
replaced all the files in the HermSSL folder. But after taht Eudora
stopped to download emails. Only the principal accout worked fine. I
had to install Eudora again.

[i***@jejejeje.it]

Look at the pic please:
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[Piet]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/ shows
a last update July 25 for the SSL package.

Pretty odd that it works fine under Win10, but not under Win8.1.

Under Win 8.1, after replacing the files in the Eudora program
dir (x86) and starting Eudora, it sits there trying to connect
to the mail servers, until it ends with 'tired of waiting'.
The showstoppers apparently are QCSSL.dll and rootcerts.p7b
Puzzled...

-p

[Rick C]

Post by Piet

https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/ shows
a last update July 25 for the SSL package.

Pretty odd that it works fine under Win10, but not under Win8.1.
Under Win 8.1, after replacing the files in the Eudora program
dir (x86) and starting Eudora, it sits there trying to connect
to the mail servers, until it ends with 'tired of waiting'.
The showstoppers apparently are QCSSL.dll and rootcerts.p7b
Puzzled...
-p

I never upgraded to Win 8.1, but Eudora worked fine for me under 8.0. I don't reinstall anything. I just copy the entire Eudora directory. If I move anything to a different directory than on the previous machine, I have to edit the .ini file. Under Win10 it seems pretty impossible to get Windows to recognize Eudora as an email app. I expect there is a way to do it, but I have yet to find good instructions on how to make that work.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 20:18:27 -0700 (PDT), Rick C

Post by Rick C
I never upgraded to Win 8.1, but Eudora worked fine for me under 8.0. I don't reinstall anything. I just copy the entire Eudora directory. If I move anything to a different directory than on the previous machine, I have to edit the .ini file. Under Win10 it seems pretty impossible to get Windows to recognize Eudora as an email app. I expect there is a way to do it, but I have yet to find good instructions on how to make that work.

Start/* (Settings)/Apps/Default Apps

Email
Select Eudora (Probably will require that you INSTALL Eudora, not
just copy around program and data directories, so that Eudora appears in
the registry).

Unfortunately, it is Pandora that does not appear in the list of
eligible mail apps -- I have Eudora, Agent, Outlook, and the Win10 "Mail"
app as choices, but have been using Pandora for 18 months.

[Piet]

Post by Piet

https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/ shows
a last update July 25 for the SSL package.

Pretty odd that it works fine under Win10, but not under Win8.1.
Under Win 8.1, after replacing the files in the Eudora program
dir (x86) and starting Eudora, it sits there trying to connect
to the mail servers, until it ends with 'tired of waiting'.
The showstoppers apparently are QCSSL.dll and rootcerts.p7b
Puzzled...

Found. And baffled.

I have a "special" Eudora setup:
I have 3 pc's: a fast one with Win10, a slow one with Win8.1 and
an oldie running Win7. On all of them I've installed Eudora, and
on all of them my Eudora profile is not in the default place, but
in a folder under my homedir. The Win10 pc acts as server for the
other two. On all pc's the paths to my Eudora profile are identical.
The only exception is that each pc has it's own eudora .ini file.
On each pc I start Eudora with "eudora.exe profile_path\pcname.ini"
(which of course is shorthand for the real command). I've had this
setup for 10 years or more (initially with a Win7 "main" pc,later
a new Win10 pc). It has always worked like a charm.

Now, on the Win10 pc I installed the hermes ssh files. That solved
a recent ssl-related problem with one mail server.
Then I installed the files on the Win8.1 pc. And there things went
wrong, as described.
To see what the heck was going on I fired up my heavy artillery:
wireshark. As soon as I started 'check mail' in Eudora, I noticed
frantic activity between client and server, like a zillion times
opening and closing the .ini file. This activity lasted so long
that Eudora timed out before it could connect to the mail servers.

Then I put the original QCSSL.dll and rootcerts.p7b back in place
and things were back to normal (including of course the the problem
with one server).

I now suspect that the new ssl *local* to Eudora interferes with
Windows' normal file sharing method. Next thing of course is to
find a way to circumvent this.

-p