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Edit sent message for printing? (Eudora 7.1)
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Pamela
2023-03-04 19:25:40 UTC
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I can edit received messages by using the pencil icon above the message
text.

How do I edit messages I have sent, which I want to print? The pencil icon
is missing.

The workaround I am using is to select "Send Again". Then I can edit the
new message but I lose my changes when I close it.

Is there a better way?
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
2023-03-04 21:55:54 UTC
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Post by Pamela
I can edit received messages by using the pencil icon above the message
text.
How do I edit messages I have sent, which I want to print? The pencil icon
is missing.
The workaround I am using is to select "Send Again". Then I can edit the
new message but I lose my changes when I close it.
Is there a better way?
Using Send Again opens a NEW message with the contents of the old message. It is not editing the old message. So if you close it, you will lose it. What's wrong with saving it as a new message after editing?

If you really want to edit the old message, you can close Eudora, then open the OUT mailbox in a text editor (after saving a version under a different name or location). Make your changes there. Then when you save it, and open Eudora again, the changes should be in the old message.
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len.s...@gmail.com
2023-03-05 17:35:15 UTC
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On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 1:55:55 PM UTC-8, ***@gmail.com wrote:
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If you really want to edit the old message, you can close Eudora, then open the OUT mailbox in a text editor (after saving a version under a different name or location). Make your changes there. Then when you save it, and open Eudora again, the changes should be in the old message.
Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
2023-03-06 07:12:31 UTC
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Post by ***@gmail.com
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If you really want to edit the old message, you can close Eudora, then open the OUT mailbox in a text editor (after saving a version under a different name or location). Make your changes there. Then when you save it, and open Eudora again, the changes should be in the old message.
Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.
My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No?
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Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
len.s...@gmail.com
2023-03-06 15:18:33 UTC
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Post by ***@gmail.com
Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.
My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No?
Yes, but then you lose the saved information about all messages in the mailbox: their status (whether they have been read, forwarded, replied to, sent, or queued), the labels that were applied to them, etc. If you don't care about that, then having Eudora regenerate the .toc file works ok.
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
2023-03-06 16:06:38 UTC
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Post by ***@gmail.com
Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.
My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No?
Yes, but then you lose the saved information about all messages in the mailbox: their status (whether they have been read, forwarded, replied to, sent, or queued), the labels that were applied to them, etc. If you don't care about that, then having Eudora regenerate the .toc file works ok.
I don't believe that is true. I've done this many times and not lost such information. In fact, deleting the .toc file is a recommended way to recover a munged mailbox. I've done this a number of times in the 20+ years I've been using Eudora. I think I would have noticed the loss of such information.
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Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Jim H
2023-03-06 17:58:00 UTC
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 08:06:38 -0800 (PST), in
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Post by ***@gmail.com
Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.
My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No?
Yes, but then you lose the saved information about all messages in the mailbox: their status (whether they have been read, forwarded, replied to, sent, or queued), the labels that were applied to them, etc. If you don't care about that, then having Eudora regenerate the .toc file works ok.
I don't believe that is true. I've done this many times and not lost such information. In fact, deleting the .toc file is a recommended way to recover a munged mailbox. I've done this a number of times in the 20+ years I've been using Eudora. I think I would have noticed the loss of such information.
If you never noticed the loss of any information, then you never had
the sort of information that will be lost. If you have nothing but
received messages, all read, none forwarded, none replied to, no
embedded images, no labels, maybe more, then and only then can you
delete the toc and regenerate it without losing anything.

It's simply not a good idea to delete the toc for a mailbox containing
many messages just because you need to edit one of them. If you must
edit a message outside Eudora, minimize potential loss by moving it to
an empty mailbox, edit it there, then move it back where you want it.
Always close Eudora whole editing. Yes, you can probably get away with
not closing Eudora to edit one message in an otherwise empty mailbox,
but it's a bad habit to get into.
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Jim H
Pamela
2023-03-18 20:07:36 UTC
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Post by Jim H
On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 08:06:38 -0800 (PST), in
Post by ***@gmail.com
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:12:33?PM UTC-8,
Post by ***@gmail.com
Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea.
If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding
table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora
stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the
mailbox.
My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No?
Yes, but then you lose the saved information about all messages in
the mailbox: their status (whether they have been read, forwarded,
replied to, sent, or queued), the labels that were applied to them,
etc. If you don't care about that, then having Eudora regenerate
the .toc file works ok.
I don't believe that is true. I've done this many times and not lost
such information. In fact, deleting the .toc file is a recommended
way to recover a munged mailbox. I've done this a number of times in
the 20+ years I've been using Eudora. I think I would have noticed
the loss of such information.
If you never noticed the loss of any information, then you never had
the sort of information that will be lost. If you have nothing but
received messages, all read, none forwarded, none replied to, no
embedded images, no labels, maybe more, then and only then can you
delete the toc and regenerate it without losing anything.
It's simply not a good idea to delete the toc for a mailbox
containing many messages just because you need to edit one of them.
If you must edit a message outside Eudora, minimize potential loss by
moving it to an empty mailbox, edit it there, then move it back where
you want it. Always close Eudora whole editing. Yes, you can probably
get away with not closing Eudora to edit one message in an otherwise
empty mailbox, but it's a bad habit to get into.
I think I'll play it safe and not edit the message with Eudora closed,
although it's useful to know from "Gnuarm" that it's possible.

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