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To import emails from Eudora 7.1 to Thunderbird?
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a***@gmail.com
2019-07-03 21:23:41 UTC
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Hi,
I'd like to replace Eudora 7.1 with Thunderbird for the certificates
problems.
I know it is possible to import emails form Eudora 7.1 to Thunderbird
but I don't know how I can I do it without losing any email.

I have just installed Thunderbiird but when I go to Tools/Import I
don't see Eudora.

Maybe do I have to install Eudora Rescue or Eudora OSE to do it?
I don't like to lose any email because I'm using Eudora for many years
and I have so many emails. I hope there is a right method to import
emails from Eudora without losing any email.
Thanks for some info.
Rick C
2019-07-03 22:21:02 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
Hi,
I'd like to replace Eudora 7.1 with Thunderbird for the certificates
problems.
I know it is possible to import emails form Eudora 7.1 to Thunderbird
but I don't know how I can I do it without losing any email.
I have just installed Thunderbiird but when I go to Tools/Import I
don't see Eudora.
Maybe do I have to install Eudora Rescue or Eudora OSE to do it?
I don't like to lose any email because I'm using Eudora for many years
and I have so many emails. I hope there is a right method to import
emails from Eudora without losing any email.
Thanks for some info.
Seems the logical place to ask for help with Tbird is in the Tbird forums on their web site.
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Thibaud Taudin Chabot
2019-07-04 09:43:24 UTC
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Post by Rick C
Post by a***@gmail.com
Hi,
I'd like to replace Eudora 7.1 with Thunderbird for the certificates
problems.
I know it is possible to import emails form Eudora 7.1 to Thunderbird
but I don't know how I can I do it without losing any email.
I have just installed Thunderbiird but when I go to Tools/Import I
don't see Eudora.
Maybe do I have to install Eudora Rescue or Eudora OSE to do it?
I don't like to lose any email because I'm using Eudora for many years
and I have so many emails. I hope there is a right method to import
emails from Eudora without losing any email.
Thanks for some info.
Seems the logical place to ask for help with Tbird is in the Tbird forums on their web site.
Check Pandora on http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/pandora.htm
This is a good replacement for Eudora with good import features from
Eudora, mailboxes as well addressbook
Larc
2019-07-04 11:40:39 UTC
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On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 23:23:41 +0200, ***@gmail.com wrote:

| Hi,
| I'd like to replace Eudora 7.1 with Thunderbird for the certificates
| problems.
| I know it is possible to import emails form Eudora 7.1 to Thunderbird
| but I don't know how I can I do it without losing any email.
|
| I have just installed Thunderbiird but when I go to Tools/Import I
| don't see Eudora.
|
| Maybe do I have to install Eudora Rescue or Eudora OSE to do it?
| I don't like to lose any email because I'm using Eudora for many years
| and I have so many emails. I hope there is a right method to import
| emails from Eudora without losing any email.
| Thanks for some info.

That could once be done in Thunderbird. The last capable version was 31.6.0. You
will find it here:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/31.6.0/win32/en-US/

Once you've installed this 2015 version and get all your Eudora data imported, you
can update to the latest Thunderbird.

Larc
a***@gmail.com
2019-07-04 16:10:13 UTC
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Post by Larc
That could once be done in Thunderbird. The last capable version was 31.6.0. You
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/31.6.0/win32/en-US/
Once you've installed this 2015 version and get all your Eudora data imported, you
can update to the latest Thunderbird.
WONDERFUL suggestion. I THANK you. That old version was able to import
everything, it seems. I need to check better.
But I'd like to ask a question:
What difference between importing with that old version and using
Eudora Rescue (converter). I mean is there a different Thumberbid
settings and layout with Eudora Rescue?
I'm asking it because I see a strange settings (layout) in Thunderbird
now.
I see on the left it:
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Is it normal? Thunderbird see Eudora mailboxes like another different
section: I don't like it.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-07-04 15:28:18 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
Hi,
I'd like to replace Eudora 7.1 with Thunderbird for the certificates
problems.
Have you updated the SSL library and root certificates with those from
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download ?

That library is supposed to mitigate the certificate problems with
Eudora (it may not get rid of all, but any newer certificates which have a
chain to the new authorities should update fairly quietly).

I'd try that, or Pandora, before downgrading to a Thunderbird variant.
Heck -- I'd enable the email capabilities of Forte Agent before going to
Thunderbird, and import the mailbox files into Agent! (Agent can even
filter emails on more headers than it can news groups -- the latter are
only subject or author)

From the help file:
"""
Importing Email Messages from Another Program
This topic explains the import procedures for messages that are in the
standard UNIX format (RFC-822).

To import messages

To help smooth the transition from your old email program, Agent allows you
to import messages from a text file that is in the standard UNIX email
message format (RFC-822).

Choose Import Messages from the File menu.

In the File Name box, enter the location of the message file from.

(Optional) Check the "If a message contains an X-Folder field..." and
"Automatically create folders" boxes.

Press OK to begin the import.
"""

Eudora uses a modified UNIX mailbox format (it puts ???@??? in the
message separator whereas UNIX duplicates the actual From: address). You
should compact the Eudora mailboxes before import to avoid getting
"deleted" messages included (Eudora keeps that information in the TOC file
which is not used during import).

Again, Agent help file
"""
Import Message File Format
Agent can import messages from a text file in the standard UNIX message
format (RFC-822). For more information, see Importing Email Messages from
Another Program.

The following describes in some detail the standard UNIX message format
Agent can import:

ยท Each message must be preceded by a line of the form:

From <user>@<domain> <dow> <mon> <day> <hour>:<minute>:<second> <year>

Where:

<user>@<domain> is the email address of the sender of the message. Agent
actually ignores this address, so it can be any address. For example,
"???@???" is acceptable.

The rest of the line is the date of the message. Agent requires that the
date be in a legal format, but it ignores the date unless the message
itself contains no Date: field. The elements of the date are:
"""

... so Eudora's ???@??? is EXPLICITLY stated to be okay.

It may take some time to configure a "desk" for email-only and set up
the routing in Agent, but as (per your headers) you are already using
Agent, it will give you a known application rather than learning something
new.
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a***@gmail.com
2019-07-04 17:16:52 UTC
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Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Have you updated the SSL library and root certificates with those from
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download ?
I installed HermSSL only without thinking about root.
I am inexpert guy and I don't know what I have to di precisely.
I get always teh same certificate problems with Eudora. What a pity!
Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-07-04 21:01:20 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Have you updated the SSL library and root certificates with those from
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download ?
I installed HermSSL only without thinking about root.
I am inexpert guy and I don't know what I have to di precisely.
I get always teh same certificate problems with Eudora. What a pity!
Per the instructions, you basically copy everything in that ZIP file
into the Eudora /program/ directory. It should have replaced the
certificate store -- so you might, as mentioned, get a few reports as they
settle.
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a***@gmail.com
2019-07-05 06:35:51 UTC
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Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Per the instructions, you basically copy everything in that ZIP file
into the Eudora /program/ directory. It should have replaced the
certificate store -- so you might, as mentioned, get a few reports as they
settle.
If I understand well I have to copy the content of these 2 folders
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in the Eudora program directory. Is it right? In other words I have to
open HermSSL and to coy all the files in Eudora program directory,
then I have to do the same even with the _MACOSX folder. Is it right?
I thank you!
Ajo Wissink
2019-07-05 13:58:23 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
Per the instructions, you basically copy everything in that ZIP file
into the Eudora /program/ directory. It should have replaced the
certificate store -- so you might, as mentioned, get a few reports as they
settle.
If I understand well I have to copy the content of these 2 folders
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8co0vm7b9u14ad4/CatturaHermSSL.JPG?dl=0
in the Eudora program directory. Is it right? In other words I have to
open HermSSL and to coy all the files in Eudora program directory,
then I have to do the same even with the _MACOSX folder. Is it right?
I thank you!
Replace only the 3 dll files + rootcerts.p7b

Then run the vcredist.exe by double-clicking on it. It is a Windows
file and Windows knows where to put it. It does not go in Eudora. You
probably have already a couple of them.

I have done this about a year ago and it has worked for all my 11
Personalities.
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Ajo Wissink
a***@gmail.com
2019-07-05 20:35:06 UTC
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THANKS a lot!
Post by Ajo Wissink
Replace only the 3 dll files + rootcerts.p7b
Then run the vcredist.exe by double-clicking on it. It is a Windows
file and Windows knows where to put it. It does not go in Eudora. You
probably have already a couple of them.
I have done this about a year ago and it has worked for all my 11
Personalities.
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