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Eudora 7.1: are you able to use yahoo.com?
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i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-20 06:49:47 UTC
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Hi, I always used Eudora 7.1 with yahoo.com with no problems. From
many days I can't get email and send email anymore.
I think there is the certificate problem. But I can't put it import it
into trusted certificates like with gmail.com. I don't see that
option.
I use these settings:
SMTP: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SERVER: pop.mail.yahoo.com

Thanks for some info.
DaveH2
2020-05-20 11:05:14 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Hi, I always used Eudora 7.1 with yahoo.com with no problems. From
many days I can't get email and send email anymore.
I think there is the certificate problem. But I can't put it import it
into trusted certificates like with gmail.com. I don't see that
option.
SMTP: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SERVER: pop.mail.yahoo.com
Thanks for some info.
Do you have the Hermes SSL update installed in Eudora? Yahoo servers are stopping support for TLSv1, the Hermes update will enable TLSv1.2 support within Eudora.
Cheers. Dave.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-20 11:57:05 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Do you have the Hermes SSL update installed in Eudora? Yahoo servers are stopping support for TLSv1, the Hermes update will enable TLSv1.2 support within Eudora.
Cheers. Dave.
No, I don't have Hermes SSL. Please, tell me where I can do the
download and how I can install it. I'm not an expert.
Thank you!
DaveH2
2020-05-20 12:27:59 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Do you have the Hermes SSL update installed in Eudora? Yahoo servers are stopping support for TLSv1, the Hermes update will enable TLSv1.2 support within Eudora.
Cheers. Dave.
No, I don't have Hermes SSL. Please, tell me where I can do the
download and how I can install it. I'm not an expert.
Thank you!
The easiest way is to go here -
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download
Save the file somewhere, and extract its contents. Go to the HermSSL folder, and then double click the vcredist.exe file and follow the prompts to install some files which are necessary to support the update. If it says they're already installed, just click OK. When that's done, you need to copy the following files to your Eudora program folder, over-writing the ones already there (with Eudora closed of course!) libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, rootcerts.p7b, and ssleay32.dll. Then try Eudora again and see if it now connects. The SSL status page should now say it's using TLSv1.2. HTH. Dave.
Lex Tutor
2020-05-20 16:14:18 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
The easiest way is to go here -
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download
Thank you very much from Italy, too.
With the Hermes SSL Eudora patch I could solve a similar problem with
the stupid italian system "PEC".
Now my Eudora can accept SSL2 certificates from italian providers.
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i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-20 23:41:38 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
The easiest way is to go here -
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download
Save the file somewhere, and extract its contents. Go to the HermSSL folder, and then double click the vcredist.exe file and follow the prompts to install some files which are necessary to support the update. If it says they're already installed, just click OK. When that's done, you need to copy the following files to your Eudora program folder, over-writing the ones already there (with Eudora closed of course!) libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, rootcerts.p7b, and ssleay32.dll. Then try Eudora again and see if it now connects. The SSL status page should now say it's using TLSv1.2. HTH. Dave.
It is nice but I get some problems. I was able to to the download the
first time but then BitDefender antivirus "block suspicious
connection". I put it into the rule of exceptions but I get always the
same problem.

My second yahoo account is blocked.
Boh!
Anyway thanks
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-21 06:57:35 UTC
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EDIT:
This morning both my accounts works good. I'm able to download my
emails but ...... BitDefender is giving me a lot of trouble with
messages from infected files. All the times that I check the emails,
BitDefender sends me messages and it blocks my accounts. Only when I
unlock them manually, I can download the emails.
I don't understand why BitDefender does it even if I put those
messages into the "exceptions".
DaveH2
2020-05-21 11:38:03 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
This morning both my accounts works good. I'm able to download my
emails but ...... BitDefender is giving me a lot of trouble with
messages from infected files. All the times that I check the emails,
BitDefender sends me messages and it blocks my accounts. Only when I
unlock them manually, I can download the emails.
I don't understand why BitDefender does it even if I put those
messages into the "exceptions".
Well I'm glad the Hermes update worked for you anyway!
I'm afraid I have no experience with BitDefender so I don't know why it might be worrying about your e-mails. Strange that adding exceptions isn't working though. Is it blocking all messages, or just some? If it's just some are the ones it's blocking all from the same source? If so that might be the issue.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2020-05-21 15:06:20 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
This morning both my accounts works good. I'm able to download my
emails but ...... BitDefender is giving me a lot of trouble with
messages from infected files. All the times that I check the emails,
BitDefender sends me messages and it blocks my accounts. Only when I
unlock them manually, I can download the emails.
I don't understand why BitDefender does it even if I put those
messages into the "exceptions".
It is commonly recommended that one not use realtime (download time)
checking of email with Eudora. Eudora normally stages fetched messages into
a spool directory first, and then reads from the spool to parse into
mailboxes. Let your virus checker process the local mail files WHEN EUDORA
READS THE SPOOL -- not when it writes to the spool.
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i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-21 16:09:17 UTC
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I explain better:
I have many accounts and when I check for emails, Bitdefender locks
all the accounts. If I put the rule of exceptions, Bitdefender doesn't
lock the email anymore for all the day, until I close Eudora.. But I
don't have to close Eudora. If I close Eudora Bitdefender does the
same thing forever. I don't understand well what I can do to solve
that problem.
I'm not an expert.
Anyway I thank you!
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-21 16:14:03 UTC
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Eudora every times shows these writings, but only the numbers of the
certificates change every time:

Suspicious connection blocked
Feature: Online Threat Prevention
Eudora.exe attempted to establish a connection relying on an
unmatching security certificate to 217.146.190.238. We blocked the
connection to keep your data safe since the used certificate was
issued for a different web address than the targeted one.
DaveH2
2020-05-21 17:05:36 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Eudora every times shows these writings, but only the numbers of the
Suspicious connection blocked
Feature: Online Threat Prevention
Eudora.exe attempted to establish a connection relying on an
unmatching security certificate to 217.146.190.238. We blocked the
connection to keep your data safe since the used certificate was
issued for a different web address than the targeted one.
Mismatched certificate names are an ongoing problem, which you can fortunately override in Eudora by "trusting" the certificate, but it looks as if BitDefender still doesn't like them! Is there no way of turning off that check in BitDefender's settings?
c***@americamail.com
2020-05-24 05:34:39 UTC
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Dave, I had the same issue for months, and after I read and followed your tip, it worked. Thank you
Chris
DaveH2
2020-05-24 11:41:30 UTC
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Post by c***@americamail.com
Dave, I had the same issue for months, and after I read and followed your tip, it worked. Thank you
Chris
Good to hear!
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-28 20:27:35 UTC
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Unfortunately I don't know how I can solve my problem.
DaveH2
2020-05-29 10:57:06 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Unfortunately I don't know how I can solve my problem.
Does everything work OK if you temporarily switch off BitDefender?
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-29 19:40:13 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Unfortunately I don't know how I can solve my problem.
Does everything work OK if you temporarily switch off BitDefender?
Yes, perfectly. But to chek yahoo emails I have to take out the folder
with HermSSL files and to put inside Eudora the original folder
without HermSSL every time files. Then I have to turn off BitDefender
and in this time I can downooad the emails.
It is very cumbersome. I can't change BitDefender with another
antivirus right now. I believe I will change and replace yahoo
accounts. In your opinion is gmx.com better for Eudora about
certificates? I mean in the future, not today.
DaveH2
2020-05-29 22:12:03 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Unfortunately I don't know how I can solve my problem.
Does everything work OK if you temporarily switch off BitDefender?
Yes, perfectly. But to chek yahoo emails I have to take out the folder
with HermSSL files and to put inside Eudora the original folder
without HermSSL every time files. Then I have to turn off BitDefender
and in this time I can downooad the emails.
It is very cumbersome. I can't change BitDefender with another
antivirus right now. I believe I will change and replace yahoo
accounts. In your opinion is gmx.com better for Eudora about
certificates? I mean in the future, not today.
So are you saying that with BitDefender off, you can use Eudora to retrieve your Yahoo e-mails without the Hermes update files, but not with them?
That makes no sense at all!
If anything, it should fail without the Hermes files.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-30 07:52:31 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
So are you saying that with BitDefender off, you can use Eudora to retrieve your Yahoo e-mails without the Hermes update files, but not with them?
That makes no sense at all!
If anything, it should fail without the Hermes files.
Dave, I'm sorry for my poor english. It is not my mother language,
I said the opposite perfectly. I'm able to retrieve myYahoo e-mails
only with the Hermes files, but I havbe to block BitDefender for all
the time. I have many other accounts (not yahoo) and I can't block
BitDefender for all the time.
I have to solve my problem with BitDefender but I don't know how I can
do it.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2020-05-30 16:51:38 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Dave, I'm sorry for my poor english. It is not my mother language,
I said the opposite perfectly. I'm able to retrieve myYahoo e-mails
only with the Hermes files, but I havbe to block BitDefender for all
the time. I have many other accounts (not yahoo) and I can't block
BitDefender for all the time.
I have to solve my problem with BitDefender but I don't know how I can
do it.
Can BitDefender be configured to NOT CHECK EMAIL in real time (ie; when
the messages are fetched from the server -- do not check POP3 ports).

Eudora does a staged retrieve. New message are first stored in a SPOOL
directory -- when they have all been retrieved, THEN Eudora processes the
spool to put messages into mailboxes.

Any decent virus checker should be okay to scan the files in the spool
as Eudora processes them into the mailboxes, so checking POP3 Internet
traffic in real-time is not needed, and can interfere (as you've found)
with some mail. I once ran a external Bayes filtering process, and it had
to be configured to feed Eudora do-nothing headers to keep Eudora from
timing out while the filter scanned the body of the message.
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DaveH2
2020-05-30 21:19:35 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
So are you saying that with BitDefender off, you can use Eudora to retrieve your Yahoo e-mails without the Hermes update files, but not with them?
That makes no sense at all!
If anything, it should fail without the Hermes files.
Dave, I'm sorry for my poor english. It is not my mother language,
I said the opposite perfectly. I'm able to retrieve myYahoo e-mails
only with the Hermes files, but I havbe to block BitDefender for all
the time. I have many other accounts (not yahoo) and I can't block
BitDefender for all the time.
I have to solve my problem with BitDefender but I don't know how I can
do it.
No problem! It looks as if you can disable SSL scanning on BitDefender.
See here - https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/common-bitdefender-issues/
Try that and see if that makes the problem go away.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-31 12:22:38 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
No problem! It looks as if you can disable SSL scanning on BitDefender.
See here - https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/common-bitdefender-issues/
Thank you dear for your help dear Dave, but I get the same problems.
Look it:
Loading Image...
It is a different path, maybe because my BitDefender is newer, but I
think I chos the right option.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-31 12:34:43 UTC
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EDIT

It seems incredible: if I disable all them:
Loading Image...
I'm able to download my emails from yahoo, but I have the same
probkems with gmail. It seems that HermSSL works only with yahoo and
not with gmail.
DaveH2
2020-05-31 13:37:22 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
EDIT
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l8lhwq6p1cv5j8g/CatturaBitDef2.JPG?dl=0
I'm able to download my emails from yahoo, but I have the same
probkems with gmail. It seems that HermSSL works only with yahoo and
not with gmail.
I'm not sure about gmail, but the thing to do now with BitDefender is to turn the protections on again one by one, until Yahoo message downloading fails again, that should identify which setting is causing the problem, and then perhaps it can be fine tuned to work around it.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-05-31 21:32:31 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
I'm not sure about gmail, but the thing to do now with BitDefender is to turn the protections on again one by one, until Yahoo message downloading fails again, that should identify which setting is causing the problem, and then perhaps it can be fine tuned to work around it.
Finally I have just understatood if I uncheck "Encrypted Web Scan" in
BitDefender, every my accounts work fine.
I attach you the pic:
Loading Image...
If I leave unchecked that box, will I have problems with Internet? I
use a lot Internet.
Thank you again one.
DaveH2
2020-06-01 11:53:34 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
I'm not sure about gmail, but the thing to do now with BitDefender is to turn the protections on again one by one, until Yahoo message downloading fails again, that should identify which setting is causing the problem, and then perhaps it can be fine tuned to work around it.
Finally I have just understatood if I uncheck "Encrypted Web Scan" in
BitDefender, every my accounts work fine.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5enrnjjaljfoi96/CatturaBitDefender.JPG?dl=0
If I leave unchecked that box, will I have problems with Internet? I
use a lot Internet.
Thank you again one.
Well I'm glad that's narrowed down the setting that's causing the problem!
I'm still surprised that you can't add an exception for the Yahoo certificates with the name mismatch, which I assume is the cause of the problem.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-01 17:30:28 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Well I'm glad that's narrowed down the setting that's causing the problem!
I'm still surprised that you can't add an exception for the Yahoo certificates with the name mismatch, which I assume is the cause of the problem.
Dave,
I'm sorry for my petulance, I hope you have not tired of giving me
advice. ;)
I have many account and not work fine but not one.
It is "email.it"

SSL Negotation Failed. The connection with the Server has been lost.
(Cause 1).
email.it suggests to use IMAP.
Could you tell me how have I configure Edora 7.1 please?
I try to configure Eudora with IMAP but it doesn't work again.
These are the settings.

IMAP imapmail.email.it
SMTP smtp.email.it
SSL available
POP sconsigliato ( Perchè? )
Porta server IMAP 143
Porta server SMTP 25 (or 587)
Porta server POP (SSL) 995
Porta server IMAP (SSL) 993
Porta server SMTP (SSL) 25 (or 587)
Porta server POP heedless
DaveH2
2020-06-01 19:21:57 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
Well I'm glad that's narrowed down the setting that's causing the problem!
I'm still surprised that you can't add an exception for the Yahoo certificates with the name mismatch, which I assume is the cause of the problem.
Dave,
I'm sorry for my petulance, I hope you have not tired of giving me
advice. ;)
I have many account and not work fine but not one.
It is "email.it"
SSL Negotation Failed. The connection with the Server has been lost.
(Cause 1).
email.it suggests to use IMAP.
Could you tell me how have I configure Edora 7.1 please?
I try to configure Eudora with IMAP but it doesn't work again.
These are the settings.
IMAP imapmail.email.it
SMTP smtp.email.it
SSL available
POP sconsigliato ( Perchč? )
Porta server IMAP 143
Porta server SMTP 25 (or 587)
Porta server POP (SSL) 995
Porta server IMAP (SSL) 993
Porta server SMTP (SSL) 25 (or 587)
Porta server POP heedless
Your POP server should surely be popmail.email.it.
Try that, and if it fails again look at the "Last SSL Info" in Eudora from the incoming mail tab on the settings for that personality. It should say why it failed, and if it didn't actually fail it should say what protocol it used to connect (should now be TLSv1.2).
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-08 22:46:36 UTC
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Because my account email.it didn't work, I replaced it with gmx.com
Now I have another problem. I get every day 3-4 boring spam emails
from gmx.com. I went inside the web site account but I didn't see the
option to disable that proble. Do you know how can I do? maybe do I
have to change email again?
DaveH2
2020-06-09 11:30:29 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Because my account email.it didn't work, I replaced it with gmx.com
Now I have another problem. I get every day 3-4 boring spam emails
from gmx.com. I went inside the web site account but I didn't see the
option to disable that proble. Do you know how can I do? maybe do I
have to change email again?
I have to ask, if you've already got around 25 e-mail accounts, why on earth do you need another one anyway?!
I don't know anything about gmx I'm afraid. Are the "spam" messages from them or from other people? If they are from gmx, if there isn't an option in your gmx account settings to disable marketing messages, there's probably nothing you can do about it I'm afraid.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-09 20:08:55 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
I have to ask, if you've already got around 25 e-mail accounts, why on earth do you need another one anyway?!
I don't know anything about gmx I'm afraid. Are the "spam" messages from them or from other people? If they are from gmx, if there isn't an option in your gmx account settings to disable marketing messages, there's probably nothing you can do about it I'm afraid.
I'm using Edius for this reason. ;) I have so many accounts with the
filters because I'm in contact with every place around the world.

They are gmx.com spam, they aren't from other people. I don't see thet
option to disable marketing messages. I don't see this option, but it
could be there.
I hope some people here can help me on it.
Rick C
2020-06-09 20:43:30 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
I have to ask, if you've already got around 25 e-mail accounts, why on earth do you need another one anyway?!
I don't know anything about gmx I'm afraid. Are the "spam" messages from them or from other people? If they are from gmx, if there isn't an option in your gmx account settings to disable marketing messages, there's probably nothing you can do about it I'm afraid.
I'm using Edius for this reason. ;) I have so many accounts with the
filters because I'm in contact with every place around the world.
They are gmx.com spam, they aren't from other people. I don't see thet
option to disable marketing messages. I don't see this option, but it
could be there.
I hope some people here can help me on it.
Can't you configure a filter to toss the emails from the gmx address?

The other thing I do is to route email through Gmail between my domain based email and my PC. Gmail has a pretty good spam filter.
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i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-10 13:08:25 UTC
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Can't you configure a filter to toss the emails from the gmx address?
Yes Rick, you are right.
I'm not an expert guy and I didn't know it was possible to make a
filter. I have just made a filter now and I hope I will not get emails
from GMX.
Thank you!!!
Rick C
2020-06-10 23:36:56 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by Rick C
Can't you configure a filter to toss the emails from the gmx address?
Yes Rick, you are right.
I'm not an expert guy and I didn't know it was possible to make a
filter. I have just made a filter now and I hope I will not get emails
from GMX.
Thank you!!!
Glad I could help. Keep in mind if you only filter on gmx.com or whatever, you won't get other emails that might come through their servers. It's all about the details and how you set it up. From: is probably the right setting to use.

Enjoy.
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c***@americamail.com
2020-05-24 05:33:23 UTC
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Dave, I had the same issue for months, and after I read and followed your tip, it worked. Thank you
Chris Krzentz
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-01 20:30:23 UTC
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Unfortunately Eudora fails again. I see it:
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DaveH2
2020-06-01 22:30:29 UTC
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/izvh58twb05b7fj/Catt.%20AAAAAAAAA%20%281%29.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q60688eid8fw96r/Catt.%20AAAAAAAAA%202.JPG?dl=0
That is showing all the signs of the Hermes files not being installed.
If they were, it would be using TLSv1.2, not TLSv1.
Are you sure that the Hermes files are in the program folder replacing the originals, especially the replacement rootcerts.p7b certificates file?
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-01 22:51:44 UTC
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Are you sure that the Hermes files are in the program folder replacing the originals, especially the replacement rootcerts.p7b certificates file?
Could you tell me how can I check it please?
DaveH2
2020-06-01 23:19:53 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Are you sure that the Hermes files are in the program folder replacing the originals, especially the replacement rootcerts.p7b certificates file?
Could you tell me how can I check it please?
rootcerts.p7b should be dated 7th September 2018, another important file is QCSSL.dll, that should be dated 29th October 2018. If the versions of those files in the Eudora folder are older than that, you haven't got the Hermes update installed.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-02 06:03:12 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Could you tell me how can I check it please?
rootcerts.p7b should be dated 7th September 2018, another important file is QCSSL.dll, that should be dated 29th October 2018. If the versions of those files in the Eudora folder are older than that, you haven't got the Hermes update installed.
I checked and I see it about rootcerts.p7b:
Creation date: sunday 31 may 2020, 23:16:18
Last edit: tuesday 9 august 2005, 17:09:26

About QCSSL.dll I see:
Creation date: sunday 31 may 2020, 23:16:18
Last edit: monday 29 octobere 2018, 14:52:46

What can I do now please?
DaveH2
2020-06-02 11:47:52 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Could you tell me how can I check it please?
rootcerts.p7b should be dated 7th September 2018, another important file is QCSSL.dll, that should be dated 29th October 2018. If the versions of those files in the Eudora folder are older than that, you haven't got the Hermes update installed.
Creation date: sunday 31 may 2020, 23:16:18
Last edit: tuesday 9 august 2005, 17:09:26
Creation date: sunday 31 may 2020, 23:16:18
Last edit: monday 29 octobere 2018, 14:52:46
What can I do now please?
QCSSL.dll looks like the right one, but not rootcerts.p7b.
I suggest you reinstall all the Hermes files.
Download the update package from here -
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download
When you have the zip file, right click on it and extract the contents to a folder. In the "HermSSL" folder you will find a file called vcredist.exe, double click on that to run it and install it. If it says it's already installed, just say "OK".
Then copy the following files -

libeay32.dll
QCSSL.dll
rootcerts.p7b
ssleay32.dll

all to the Eudora program folder (with Eudora closed!) replacing the ones already there.
Then try Eudora again, it should now be connecting using TLSv1.2.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-02 16:23:01 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download
When you have the zip file, right click on it and extract the contents to a folder. In the "HermSSL" folder you will find a file called vcredist.exe, double click on that to run it and install it. If it says it's already installed, just say "OK".
Then copy the following files -
libeay32.dll
QCSSL.dll
rootcerts.p7b
ssleay32.dll
all to the Eudora program folder (with Eudora closed!) replacing the ones already there.
Then try Eudora again, it should now be connecting using TLSv1.2.
Dave, I did it again and I replaced those files, but everything is as
before, that is every account works fine but not email.it.
What a pity!
Anyway I thank you for your help.
DaveH2
2020-06-02 17:04:35 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download
When you have the zip file, right click on it and extract the contents to a folder. In the "HermSSL" folder you will find a file called vcredist.exe, double click on that to run it and install it. If it says it's already installed, just say "OK".
Then copy the following files -
libeay32.dll
QCSSL.dll
rootcerts.p7b
ssleay32.dll
all to the Eudora program folder (with Eudora closed!) replacing the ones already there.
Then try Eudora again, it should now be connecting using TLSv1.2.
Dave, I did it again and I replaced those files, but everything is as
before, that is every account works fine but not email.it.
What a pity!
Anyway I thank you for your help.
Can you confirm that the other accounts which are working are connecting with TLSv1.2? Look at the "Last SSL Info" on their incoming mail tabs. If they are connecting with TLSv1.2, the Hermes files are working.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-02 17:44:27 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Can you confirm that the other accounts which are working are connecting with TLSv1.2? Look at the "Last SSL Info" on their incoming mail tabs. If they are connecting with TLSv1.2, the Hermes files are working.
Dave, could you check please?
This was an account that didn't work some days ago, but now it works
fine.
Loading Image...
I thank you.
DaveH2
2020-06-02 19:01:06 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
Can you confirm that the other accounts which are working are connecting with TLSv1.2? Look at the "Last SSL Info" on their incoming mail tabs. If they are connecting with TLSv1.2, the Hermes files are working.
Dave, could you check please?
This was an account that didn't work some days ago, but now it works
fine.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ue8u7jvar7j7t4/CatturaEudoraa.JPG?dl=0
I thank you.
That looks fine, I assume if you expand out the server certificate at the top there are no ones with "skull and crossbones" symbols on them!
Is it using TLSv1.2 though? Look at the "Last SSL Info" page.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-02 19:35:44 UTC
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That looks fine, I assume if you expand out the server certificate at the top there are no ones with "skull and crossbones" symbols on them!
Is it using TLSv1.2 though? Look at the "Last SSL Info" page.
Look it:
Loading Image...
You are right, there isn't "skull and crossbones". Maybe it means
email.it could work fine but the server doesn't work fine. Is it
right?
DaveH2
2020-06-02 19:44:24 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
That looks fine, I assume if you expand out the server certificate at the top there are no ones with "skull and crossbones" symbols on them!
Is it using TLSv1.2 though? Look at the "Last SSL Info" page.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1f0m43g3fksn7fr/Catturaaaaaa.JPG?dl=0
You are right, there isn't "skull and crossbones". Maybe it means
email.it could work fine but the server doesn't work fine. Is it
right?
We need to know if TLSv1.2 is working.
Can you check that please, on the "Last SSL Info" page?!
If that isn't working that needs to be fixed before anything else!
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-02 20:53:55 UTC
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Can you check that please, on the "Last SSL Info" page?!
If that isn't working that needs to be fixed before anything else!
I'm sorry, I doidn't understand well, now I understand.
On the "Last SSL Info" unfortunately I see it:
SSL version: TLSv1
In your opinion what could I do to solve that problem?
DaveH2
2020-06-02 22:36:04 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
Can you check that please, on the "Last SSL Info" page?!
If that isn't working that needs to be fixed before anything else!
I'm sorry, I doidn't understand well, now I understand.
SSL version: TLSv1
In your opinion what could I do to solve that problem?
OK, with the Hermes files installed, that should be TLSv1.2.
Can you check with all the e-mail accounts you have set up on Eudora.
Do a mail check on each one, then check the "Last SSL Info" for each one.
Are they all saying TLSv1, or are some saying TLSv1.2?
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-03 06:38:31 UTC
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Can you check with all the e-mail accounts you have set up on Eudora.
Do a mail check on each one, then check the "Last SSL Info" for each one.
Are they all saying TLSv1, or are some saying TLSv1.2?
I have a bit of everything.
With some account I can't open "Last SSL Info" . When I try to open it
I see these writings:

"You have never checked email using SSL connection with this
personality since the last time you started Eudora (or a negotation is
in progress with the personality)".

When I open other "Last SSL Info" I read:

"Certificate bad: Destination Host name does not match host name in
certificate, But ignoring this error because Certificate is trusted".

I have 26 account, a few of them works with "TLSv1.2" and a few of
them with "TLSv1", but all of them works fine, even those with
"TLSv1".
Only 2 accounts don't work and they are "email.it", with "TLSv1".
DaveH2
2020-06-03 12:09:35 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by DaveH2
Can you check with all the e-mail accounts you have set up on Eudora.
Do a mail check on each one, then check the "Last SSL Info" for each one.
Are they all saying TLSv1, or are some saying TLSv1.2?
I have a bit of everything.
With some account I can't open "Last SSL Info" . When I try to open it
"You have never checked email using SSL connection with this
personality since the last time you started Eudora (or a negotation is
in progress with the personality)".
"Certificate bad: Destination Host name does not match host name in
certificate, But ignoring this error because Certificate is trusted".
I have 26 account, a few of them works with "TLSv1.2" and a few of
them with "TLSv1", but all of them works fine, even those with
"TLSv1".
Only 2 accounts don't work and they are "email.it", with "TLSv1".
That's why I said to do a mail check on each account before doing the SSL Info check! You will get the "You have never checked email using SSL connection...." message if you don't, as you have to have attempted a connection in that session to get the SSL Info.
I have never known anyone with 26 e-mail accounts before!
The fact that any of them are using TLSv1.2 is good news, as that means that the Hermes files are working OK. Eudora can only use TLSv1 by itself.
Some of your e-mail providers are presumably still using only TLSv1, which is fine as long as it works.
The "certificate bad" message is not a problem as long as you have trusted the certificate, with you appear to have done. That's the issue that was causing the problem with BitDefender I think.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-03 10:04:10 UTC
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Please, I need your help.
I went on the email.it web page and the suggest it:

IMAP imapmail.email.it
SMTP smtp.email.it
SSL available
POP not recommended
IMAP 143 server port
SMTP server port 25 (or 587)
POP server port (SSL) 995
IMAP server port (SSL) 993
SMTP server port (SSL) 25 (or 587)
POP server port not recommended

It means email.it suggests to use IMAP (maybe it is my problem because
I configured my account with POP mail) but I don't know how to
choose/find "IMAP 143 server port" and IMAP server port (SSL) 993.
I'm not able to config. Eudora with IMAP.
Thanks for your help!
DaveH2
2020-06-03 12:16:30 UTC
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Please, I need your help.
IMAP imapmail.email.it
SMTP smtp.email.it
SSL available
POP not recommended
IMAP 143 server port
SMTP server port 25 (or 587)
POP server port (SSL) 995
IMAP server port (SSL) 993
SMTP server port (SSL) 25 (or 587)
POP server port not recommended
It means email.it suggests to use IMAP (maybe it is my problem because
I configured my account with POP mail) but I don't know how to
choose/find "IMAP 143 server port" and IMAP server port (SSL) 993.
I'm not able to config. Eudora with IMAP.
Thanks for your help!
But are they saying that POP is no longer available?
"Not recommended" is not the same as saying that it isn't available and therefore won't work!
I'm afraid that I have no experience at all with IMAP on Eudora, I've only ever used POP.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2020-06-02 22:58:09 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Could you tell me how can I check it please?
rootcerts.p7b should be dated 7th September 2018, another important file is QCSSL.dll, that should be dated 29th October 2018. If the versions of those files in the Eudora folder are older than that, you haven't got the Hermes update installed.
Creation date: sunday 31 may 2020, 23:16:18
Last edit: tuesday 9 august 2005, 17:09:26
Creation date: sunday 31 may 2020, 23:16:18
Last edit: monday 29 octobere 2018, 14:52:46
What can I do now please?
Open a command shell and enter:

dir /s c:\qcssl*.*

Then, when it finishes, cut&paste the text into a reply... That command
should find any copies of the qcssl file on your machine -- I'd like to
verify you don't have strays that might be getting picked up in place of
the desired one.

-=-=-=-
C:\Users\Wulfraed>dir /s c:\qcssl*.*
Volume in drive C is OS
Volume Serial Number is 4ACC-3CB4

Directory of c:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora

03/16/2019 05:57 PM 81,424 QCSSL.dll
10/04/2006 01:04 PM 507,904 QCSSL.dll-old
2 File(s) 589,328 bytes
-=-=-=-

{I was about to suggest also doing that for libeay32 and ssleay32, but my
machine has dozens of those files; seems every application that does any
network stuff has its own copy.}

Also, obtain the results of

dir /s c:\rootcerts*.*

(I expect the RootCerts directory to be something that can be ignored)

-=-=-=-
C:\Users\Wulfraed>dir /s c:\rootcerts*.*
Volume in drive C is OS
Volume Serial Number is 4ACC-3CB4

Directory of c:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora

12/03/2016 08:00 PM <DIR> RootCerts
03/16/2019 05:57 PM 198,703 rootcerts.p7b
1 File(s) 198,703 bytes

Directory of c:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora\RootCerts

09/26/2006 02:45 PM 400 RootCerts1.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,174 RootCerts10.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,146 RootCerts11.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,508 RootCerts12.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,504 RootCerts13.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,508 RootCerts14.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,508 RootCerts15.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,122 RootCerts16.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,122 RootCerts17.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,122 RootCerts18.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,122 RootCerts19.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 676 RootCerts2.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,126 RootCerts20.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 854 RootCerts3.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 848 RootCerts4.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 848 RootCerts5.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 840 RootCerts6.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,166 RootCerts7.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,184 RootCerts8.cer
09/26/2006 02:45 PM 1,174 RootCerts9.cer
20 File(s) 21,952 bytes

Total Files Listed:
21 File(s) 220,655 bytes
1 Dir(s) 1,352,072,863,744 bytes free

C:\Users\Wulfraed>
-=-=-=-
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
***@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-03 06:46:58 UTC
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dir /s c:\qcssl*.*
I opened "command prompt" and I run it as administrator,
then I pasted "dir /s c:\qcssl*.*" and I got these writings.
But I'm not an expert and I don't understand what it means.


Microsoft Windows [Versione 10.0.18363.836]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. Tutti i diritti sono riservati.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>dir /s c:\qcssl*.*
Il volume nell'unità C non ha etichetta.
Numero di serie del volume: 34B7-CAF4

Directory di c:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora

29/10/2018 15:52 81.424 QCSSL.dll
1 File 81.424 byte

Directory di c:\Users\ExploringWorld\Desktop\Eudora con
HermSSL\Qualcomm\Eudora

29/10/2018 15:52 81.424 QCSSL.dll
1 File 81.424 byte

Directory di c:\Users\ExploringWorld\Desktop\HermSSL\HermSSL

29/10/2018 15:52 81.424 QCSSL.dll
1 File 81.424 byte

Totale file elencati:
3 File 244.272 byte
0 Directory 258.899.578.880 byte disponibili

C:\WINDOWS\system32>
DaveH2
2020-06-03 12:13:34 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
dir /s c:\qcssl*.*
I opened "command prompt" and I run it as administrator,
then I pasted "dir /s c:\qcssl*.*" and I got these writings.
But I'm not an expert and I don't understand what it means.
Microsoft Windows [Versione 10.0.18363.836]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. Tutti i diritti sono riservati.
C:\WINDOWS\system32>dir /s c:\qcssl*.*
Il volume nell'unità C non ha etichetta.
Numero di serie del volume: 34B7-CAF4
Directory di c:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora
29/10/2018 15:52 81.424 QCSSL.dll
1 File 81.424 byte
Directory di c:\Users\ExploringWorld\Desktop\Eudora con
HermSSL\Qualcomm\Eudora
29/10/2018 15:52 81.424 QCSSL.dll
1 File 81.424 byte
Directory di c:\Users\ExploringWorld\Desktop\HermSSL\HermSSL
29/10/2018 15:52 81.424 QCSSL.dll
1 File 81.424 byte
3 File 244.272 byte
0 Directory 258.899.578.880 byte disponibili
C:\WINDOWS\system32>
That looks fine.
The only one that matters is the one in "c:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora".
I guess the other two are in installation folders on your desktop.
You can safely delete those folders now we've confirmed that the Hermes files are working.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-03 16:46:25 UTC
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Now I configured email.it with IMAP.
Now I see "TLSv1.2" in SSL Info, but it doesn't work because I need to
choose 110 port. How can I choose it in Eudora?
DaveH2
2020-06-03 16:52:26 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Now I configured email.it with IMAP.
Now I see "TLSv1.2" in SSL Info, but it doesn't work because I need to
choose 110 port. How can I choose it in Eudora?
Good news about TLSv1.2!
If you look at the top right of the "Last SSL Info" window, what port does it say it's using now?
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-03 17:53:33 UTC
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Post by DaveH2
Good news about TLSv1.2!
If you look at the top right of the "Last SSL Info" window, what port does it say it's using now?
I see Port : 993
I think it not the right port.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-03 18:01:27 UTC
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Look at it please:
Loading Image...
Everything seems OK but I am not able to download my emails.
DaveH2
2020-06-03 18:12:20 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9halaz3anj4kbns/SSL.JPG?dl=0
Everything seems OK but I am not able to download my emails.
According to this -
https://getmailspring.com/setup/access-email-it-via-imap-smtp
your settings are fine with port 993!
What actually happens when you try to retrieve your messages, does nothing happen or do you get an error message?
If you look in the Certificate Information Manager, are all the server certificates OK (no "skull and crossbones" next to any of them)?
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-13 22:06:51 UTC
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Hey Dave, I write only to inform you all my accounts now work
prefectly.
I thank you a lot for your help!
DaveH2
2020-06-13 22:14:00 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Hey Dave, I write only to inform you all my accounts now work
prefectly.
I thank you a lot for your help!
That's great to hear, glad to have been able to help!
I hope your filter is keeping the gmx spam at least out of your inbox, sorry there seemed to be no way of stopping it at source.
Cheers, Dave.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2020-06-03 17:21:36 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
Now I configured email.it with IMAP.
Now I see "TLSv1.2" in SSL Info, but it doesn't work because I need to
choose 110 port. How can I choose it in Eudora?
You don't!
Post by i***@jejejeje.it
IMAP 143 server port
IMAP server port (SSL) 993
Eudora should be using port 143 for non-SSL connections, and should be
using port 993 when SSL is enabled.
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
***@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-06-03 17:57:13 UTC
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Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
You don't!
Post by i***@jejejeje.it
IMAP 143 server port
IMAP server port (SSL) 993
Eudora should be using port 143 for non-SSL connections, and should be
using port 993 when SSL is enabled.
I have difficulty understanding, sorry!
My mind is smoking. ;) I do not understand anything anymore.
i***@jejejeje.it
2020-08-22 06:08:10 UTC
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UPDATE
Hey friends,
my Eudora 7.1 is working so good now with all my accounts. It has
never worked so well with certificates.
I'd like to thank all of you again for your help.
DaveH2
2020-08-22 11:15:58 UTC
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Post by i***@jejejeje.it
UPDATE
Hey friends,
my Eudora 7.1 is working so good now with all my accounts. It has
never worked so well with certificates.
I'd like to thank all of you again for your help.
That's really good to hear, thanks for the feedback, there's plenty of life in Eudora yet!
Cheers, Dave.

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